Is this “us tech” in the room with us now?

Interesting that they would be confused at all. I have an interest, because Canada is cool, but I won’t be visiting anytime soon because I know we are the worst and nobody is going to want us there. I also don’t want to deal with assholes at the border, even though I’m a US citizen they have carte blanche to do anything they are in the mood for.

In related news: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/personal-finance/retirement/article-canadian-investors-us-stocks-sun-life/

Canadian investors divested from U.S. equity funds in the first quarter at the highest rate since the start of the pandemic, moving their money into more conservative investments, according to a new report from Sun Life SLF-T.
 But people aren’t cashing out. Overall withdrawal rates remained stable, suggesting that investors are staying committed to their long-term savings.

What about it?

I certainly don’t judge Americans who come here unless they’re acting MAGAish (wearing the hat, American flag clothes, etc).

While it’s true there’s a lot of that, AWS just dominates the cloud, and many of our own tech companies here in Canada use AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, not because they’re cheap, but because they have good uptime guarantees, security guarantees, easily allow you to deploy worldwide and provide fast access to customers almost everywhere (especially major markets like the EU and Asia), and provides companies access to a large talent pool who know how to use these systems. You’d be hard-pressed, as a business owner and/or CTO, to use other options and handle all those downsides yourself, slowing down your ability to do business. The only other potential non-US alternative here is probably Alibaba, but they’re not even close to being considered competition internationally.

Aside from Apple, the big tech companies down south are big and hard to displace not because of what most people know them for, but because of this large arm of software infrastructure that basically serves as the literal backbone of the consumer-side of the Internet.

And for those who think that we can just build that infrastructure ourselves, take note that these companies have been doing this for at least a decade, and spent billions and probably trillions doing this in the US and abroad. AWS itself claims that between 2011 and 2022, it invested $108.9 billion in USD, just within the US alone, and they have data centres in many parts of the world. Not discouraging anyone, but you have to think about where that kind of money has to come from.

Good! Stay safe. Stay far away.

Brudda, it’s a geniune question. The article talks about physical products.

It wasn’t only tactical whataboutism, it was literal verbatim whataboutism.

That is the very specific method to get me to dismiss you.

I’m wondering how it going on other fronts i.e the non-physical.

No, you’re not. You’re attempting to undermine the central message of the story.

A real answer would be appreciated instead “I’m on high alert and will interpret any answer I see as malevolence”.

Something that you could have looked up. But oh no, you had to deliver a whataboutism turd of a comment.

You’re fooling absolutely no one.

Brudda.

Is lemmy.ca redacting naughty words now?

I divested from US tech decades before it was cool.

My inlaws are dual and living in the US. Very surprised and confused why I was still upset about it.

What gets me is that no one seems to be mentioning exactly what it means that US is entering their ‘Papers please’ phase, and that supporting a fascist state isn’t a very Canadian thing to do.

Not wanting to be hassled at the border, or having our sovereignty threatened is an understandable reason for avoiding the US, but it’s also pretty selfish.

I wish I see more people, and Canadian news media talking about the bigger side of it as in ‘We don’t support fascism’

That should be an integral part of our identity, especially if we want to ensure the Conservatives stop trying to normalise maple maga ideals.

When instances block words, I normally see it as “removed”. I think that @lost_faith@lemmy.ca might’ve self-censored?

not that I know of, I just rather let the reader inject their own word there

exactly, you fill in the word that best fits for you

Yes.

There is likely a device running US software in the room you are in.

It was a psychiatric question. Zoooom.

What? There’s absolutely no way we can interpret intent in this case - this could genuinely be a fair question asked in good faith.

“What about US tech?” could be interpreted a number of ways, from “are Canadians also divesting from US tech?” to “But Canadians aren’t divesting from US tech, what about that?”. There’s no reason to believe this person is going after the latter case here when “ok that’s retail, how’s tech doing?” is equally likely and imminently reasonable.

I’m fine to get dog piled here but I think you’ve assumed bad faith where there is no reason to make that assumption, especially after the user attempted to disambiguate in exactly the way I’ve described.

I’m also curious to see how Canadian usage of American tech companies has changed. I wonder if it got more people to quit Twitter finally.

Honestly, we’re generally fine with individual Americans that are respectful. Not many of us, if any at all, will be rude towards you unless you’re an openly hateful Trump supporter.

Why? Because it got personal. Trump can verbally shit his policies all over the place but once he started talking about annexing (invading) Canada then the citizenry took notice. This is not a boycott hand in hand with the government of Canada. This is a boycott by the people at a grassroots level and it needed no organizing whatsoever.