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Could publicly-owned grocery stores break Canada’s grocery oligopoly?

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  • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

    We have those in America already, they are called co-ops. This is the one in my area: https://www.honestweight.coop/ and https://www.niskayunaco-op.com/ . Mamdani’s proposal isn’t bold, it’s already been done, and there is no reason why they can’t be implemented in NYC.

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    revan343@lemmy.ca
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    This isn’t about co-ops

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      laffytaffy
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      I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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      • laffytaffyL laffytaffy

        I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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        outlierblue@lemmy.ca
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        Technically yes, but I’m sure the cops would show up and charge you with mischief or something. Remember, the cops are here to protect the status quo, not to protect you.

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        • P Paige

          Terrible solution.
          Break up and split the wholesale and retail operations. Legislate against wholesale pricing discrimination (Wholesale pricing cannot have price breaks which exclude smaller competitors)

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          acargitz
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          Why “terrible”? You got something against crown corporations?

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            Why “terrible”? You got something against crown corporations?

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            Paige
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            I don’t have a universal like or dislike of publicly owned companies. Expending limited resources and political capital on running a supermarket before trying any antitrust regulation is a waste of governmental resources.

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              Lovable Sidekick
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              #26

              I don’t see what the backlash is about. A publicly owned store is no different from Costco, except everybody’s a member and there are no owners raking off prof-… ohhhhh, now I get it.

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              • E e839f72a@lemmynsfw.com

                But i heard the communist countries have fake grocery stores with plastic fruits just for show!!!

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                Lovable Sidekick
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                We cut out the middleman and put the plastic directly in the food.

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                • RachelC Rachel

                  Co Ops are owned by the employees or customers/members depending on how they are setup. The article was implying it being owned by the local government like utilities and roads are.

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                  twopi@lemmy.ca
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                  The article shouldn’t be implying. It’s part of his platform.

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                  • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                    We have those in America already, they are called co-ops. This is the one in my area: https://www.honestweight.coop/ and https://www.niskayunaco-op.com/ . Mamdani’s proposal isn’t bold, it’s already been done, and there is no reason why they can’t be implemented in NYC.

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                    Victor Villas
                    wrote on last edited by villasv@lemmy.ca
                    #29

                    they are called coops

                    No they are not.

                    Of course coops exist in Canada but it’s not the same thing

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                      rozodru@lemmy.world
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                      I live in Toronto, I just do all my grocery shopping in Chinatown on Spadina and the surrounding area. so much cheaper, like insanely cheaper and better stuff too.

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                      • laffytaffyL laffytaffy

                        I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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                        hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        I think if you got the right license to be an artisan producer you would be fine, might need a permit to setup a tent or something.

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                        • P Paige

                          I don’t have a universal like or dislike of publicly owned companies. Expending limited resources and political capital on running a supermarket before trying any antitrust regulation is a waste of governmental resources.

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                          hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          Fuck Weston nationalize Loblaws. Boom running a supermarket made easy.

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                          • laffytaffyL laffytaffy

                            I’m curious. Can I made a bunch of bread, sit just off NoFrills property, and gift a loaf to everyone who agrees not to buy bread from the store.

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                            StinkyFingerItchyBum
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                            The penalty for illegal price fixing food like Weston’s Bread, should be nationalization into the public fold.

                            The Weston Bakery Empire and Galen’s yacht aptly named “Bread” should be public property.

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                              scott_of_the_arctic@lemmy.world
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                              We need that in Norway.

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                                ZeroOne
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                                Ummm yes

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                                • S scott_of_the_arctic@lemmy.world

                                  We need that in Norway.

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                                  AwesomeLowlander
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                                  God yes. The grocery selection here is horrible.

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                                  • O outlierblue@lemmy.ca

                                    Technically yes, but I’m sure the cops would show up and charge you with mischief or something. Remember, the cops are here to protect the status quo, not to protect you.

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                                    Jerkface (any/all)
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                                    #37

                                    They’re here to advance the interests of the state. Which is usually the status quo, but when it’s suddenly not, shit happens.

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                                    • P Paige

                                      Terrible solution.
                                      Break up and split the wholesale and retail operations. Legislate against wholesale pricing discrimination (Wholesale pricing cannot have price breaks which exclude smaller competitors)

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                                      Jerkface (any/all)
                                      wrote on last edited by jerkface@lemmy.ca
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                                      It’s a solution that can be implemented by powerless people on their own. I agree that the state has better means at its disposal, but they’re not going to help any time soon.

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                                      • L lefantome@programming.dev

                                        Are Co-ops not already a thing? How is this different?

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                                        Cethin
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                                        State owned and employee owned are very different, though both are better than the corporate system we have now. Both have advantages and disadvantages though. State owned ideally operates solely for the benefit of the public, though the government has to not be corruptable. Employee owned answers to employees, so it operates in their best interest, which is often to customers best interest too. They aren’t run purely to generate a profit for shareholders. They’re generally operated to be stable and provide good jobs for a long time, and not exploit employees obviously.

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                                        • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

                                          Canada post doesn’t have a lot of their own locations any more. The majority are contracted locations within other stores.

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                                          Avid Amoeba
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                                          Mostly Loblaw’s (Shopper’s Drugmart) in Ontario. And apparently the employees work for Galen too so they’re paid accordingly.

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