'It's ridiculous': Why some Canadian youth feel ready to tap out of tipping culture
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It is when you know they’re being paid less than minimum wage because they’re a server. Want to actually make a difference? Lobby for better labor laws. Otherwise, you’re just punching someone who’s already down and blaming them for it.
Lobby for better labor laws.
Servers are the main opposition to this as they want to make even more via tips. This doesn’t change that tips are optional.
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If you aren’t talking about why tipping is a thing. Just shut up about this. Be an asshole or don’t. But just shut the fuck up.
There’s no reason to be mad at people who are underpaid. Be mad about why and how they’re underpaid. Be mad at who is underpaying them.
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Not sure why I got downvoted, but I’ve been living here for 15 years and it definitely exists. Most of the time, you don’t even notice it because they just charge you with out telling. You might see it in the corner of the menu. Google テーブルチャージ or お通し代.
No one downvoted you (or at least I didn’t). I’ll keep an eye out next time, but I usually pay cash and it’s exactly what the meal costs.
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I refuse to tip in any situation where someone just makes something and hands it to me. Bare minimum, at least take my order at the table, and deliver it to my table. That gets you 10%.
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I like that the image shows 5/10/15%. I haven’t seen THAT since the early 2000s. More commonly, starting 15/20/25 or 15/18/20, these days.
Absolutely infuriating.
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Every generation since the boomers has had 1/4th the proportional wealth of the previous generation at the same points in their development.
Millennials have 1/4th the buying power of boomers, gen-z has 1/16th the buying power of boomers at any given age.
Wealth inequality is killing us all
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In the US, if the server doesn’t meet minimum wage using tips the balance comes from the business to ensure the serve has been paid minimum wage. Actual minimum wage, not server minimum wage. All tipping does is subsidize a restaurants labor costs.
Not tipping will definitely lower the income of a server since a lot make over min wage off tips. Labor laws need to change for servers so they aren’t in an exploitable position and have to rely on tips to live and deal with power tripping customers who think servers are their slaves b/c “they’re paying their wage”
Do not make blanket statements like this about the United States. Every state has different laws. Quite a few states have laws on the books that legally require all employees regardless of work to be paid full minimum wage so anyone making tips is getting paid significantly better than all the other minimum wage workers around them
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It literally takes one to three finger presses on a machine to opt out of tipping when you don’t feel like it’s appropriate. I don’t understand why this has to be discussed over and over. It’s the lowest hanging fruit social norms change ever.
The thing is, touristy places like Vancouver will only ever see these go up because tourists are generally biased to believe that tipping 20% is normal. Get used to choosing “Other %”, it’s that easy.
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I stopped tipping a while ago. For most places anyway.
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This is kinda my complaint with not adding the tax to the sticker price.
And you’re not even allowed to know what the tax is beforehand.
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If you aren’t talking about why tipping is a thing. Just shut up about this. Be an asshole or don’t. But just shut the fuck up.
There’s no reason to be mad at people who are underpaid. Be mad about why and how they’re underpaid. Be mad at who is underpaying them.
No… it’s the servers themselves who keep perpetuating this shit and supporting it in online discussions
ALL service workers are underpaid, but restaurant servers are making out like bandits.
Tipping sucks for the obvious systemic reasons. But also, the entitlement of service staff is problematic.
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In Japan, we don’t have tip, but we do have “table charge” which is kind of bullshit. At least the service is generally 100x better than in Canada.
Nothing bullshit about a table charge. Happens in italy as well (coperto).
it’s upfront, and it’s a small, reasonable charge. It’a not some bullshit, guilt-trip guessing game at the end of the night when they hand you the credit card machine
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Nothing bullshit about a table charge. Happens in italy as well (coperto).
it’s upfront, and it’s a small, reasonable charge. It’a not some bullshit, guilt-trip guessing game at the end of the night when they hand you the credit card machine
It’s the fact that they AREN’T upfront about it a lot of times that bothers me. Not the table charge itself. I wasn’t clear about that, sorry.
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No… it’s the servers themselves who keep perpetuating this shit and supporting it in online discussions
ALL service workers are underpaid, but restaurant servers are making out like bandits.
Tipping sucks for the obvious systemic reasons. But also, the entitlement of service staff is problematic.
Absolutely, it’s fair to say that min wage is low. But it’s not fair to only give extra money to restaurant service. The restaurant staff are not entitled to a higher wage than other min wage workers. Especially since 2022 when the separate server wage was abolished.
These types of comments don’t say what should happen when a certain policy objective has been achieved. That is, of course, stop tipping. Instead there is a desire to get min wage + extra tips.
