FWIW, He’s better on the Gaza issue than Trudeau.

There was nothing in the parent comment about Israel or Gaza either but here we all are.

It’s working out great down here!

In the US it isn’t worth anything.

Everyone that’s not perfect is equally bad.

Maybe we can trade? I mean… If you want to?

To be honest I didn’t really expect anything from Carney beyond being a less insane seeming conservative. Which seems to be what he is.

I’m not really a fan, but I really dislike Pierre.

I don’t expect a lot from the people in this country. If more people voted more left of either L or C I might. But we aren’t dealing with an especially intelligent populace. Made worse by the bleed of US style political bullshit into our country like a shit stain we can’t ever get clean.

I mean, I more just wanted a guy that wouldn’t just bend over and present himself and let Trump go to town.

I mean lets face it the only reason Carney won was because of what Trump said. that’s it. We Canadians are honestly pretty dumb when it comes to politics and we sure do love our sound bites. Remember PP had this thing in the bag until Trump opened his mouth and then suddenly we all said “oh yeah…yeah we don’t want that lets vote for the guy that kinda isn’t that” while the NDP “here’s Singh, sure he doesn’t have a single original thought in his head but…yeah it’s the best we can do”

Like our choices were unoriginal man, nazi man, or none of the above man.

While I wish Carney was more openly ‘elbows up’ I acknowledge there’s a tonne at that level of government I don’t really know about. I’d say at this point, yeah, I’m disappointed in Carney, but for now I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. From day one his path was to pull away from the strongest ally Canada has ever had and an ally we were near-totally tied to. It takes time to find alternate deals and countries to replace those broken agreements. Cutting ties instantly would have led to the greatest recession Canada has ever seen and may well have destroyed the country. Honestly, if he announces some major shifts to other countries within his first year I’d expect that to be a pretty significant success.

Just like how Trump’s policies have taken 6 to 8 months to start showing results in the US, moving away from a country we were so closely tied to will not only take a long time to do, but seeing the results will take longer beyond that. Carney’s only been PM for 8 months and is arguably facing the greatest challenge any PM has had to face in decades. I’ve tempered my expectations and am waiting to see how the next few months play out. My hope is that he’s just stringing Trump along until we get our shit sorted, like setting up a new job and place to live before leaving an abusive relationship.

And if they’re perfect they’re surely hiding something, better not vote at all

If pigs could fly we’d have less bacon. Are you new or did you forget we vote for the least bad party? There was only one option last election that would not result in PP getting in. But you keep going on fantasizing.

You know exactly what he’s done. Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.

There is nothing else Canada can do anyways. Do you want us to get into hot war with Israel and subsequently the US? I don’t. And we have no other leverage.

I thought Singh was great, but didn’t stand a chance against white men.

Carneys been a real disappointment, but I guess he’s not Bitcoin pete

He defines it right here and it’s not your little fantasy definition: https://youtube.com/shorts/Sjg8r43vPMc

Liberals got elected on a platform of divorcing the Canadian economy from the Americans and rejuvenating the Canadian economy through nation-building megaprojects from coast to coast built with Canadian natural resources. What do we have so far?

• No announcements on any megaprojects

• No homes built, instead just a big tax giveaway to developers

• all counter-tariffs on the US dropped to appease trump

• digital services tax repealed to appease trump

• despite appeasement, no end in sight to US trade war

• Also started a trade war with China for no reason, so we’re getting spitroasted by tariffs from both superpowers

• austerity programs at Canada Post leading to the 2nd strike in a year

Unfortunately I don’t think the NDP or BQ have the balls to topple the government this early, but Carney came into office looking like a MVP and he’s a big fat bust.

Is that what the poster said? This isn’t America, we have 3rd and even 4th and 5th parties to choose from. There’s no reason to vote for the zionist if you want a principled anti-Zionist party like the NDP.

Pollievre will do tax cuts, deregulation and austerity while keeping us distracted with 24/7 idiotic conservative culture wars. Carney is doing tax cuts, deregulation and austerity while keeping us distracted with the promise of “nation building projects” that will never materialize. Either way it’s tax cuts, deregulation and austerity. The only difference is the type lies they’re telling to distract us.

The Americans have third parties too. And just like in America, voting third party in Canada usually acts as a “spoiler” that helps out a party that doesn’t align ideologically with the voter who’s casting their protest vote. You have to vote strategically in each riding to make your vote actually accomplish something and that usually comes down to a choice between Liberal and Conservative.

Thanks, first-past-the-post.

Please do not turn our multi-party democracy into an America-style duopoly with your “strategic voting”. All it’s done is turn our elections into another Red-vs-Blue nightmare where both parties have the same policies and are only differentiated by culture wars.

It’s not my decision, unfortunately. It’s a structural feature that’s inherent in first-past-the-post voting. If you don’t vote strategically then you are “throwing your vote away” whether you believe it or not.

Canada’s been fortunate in having some ridings where a national “third party” was locally the strategic one to vote for. I myself was fortunate to be able to vote NDP last election, my riding was one of the few where the two leading candidates were NDP and Conservative rather than Liberal and Conservative. Same went for some Bloc voters in Quebec, presumably. But look at the history of Canadian elections, it’s a two-party system in all but name. The times where it wasn’t ultimately a question of “Liberal or Conservative?” Were rare aberrations, and even in those rare cases where there was a viable third party candidate they still only made it as far as opposition.

I would very much like to change that. I consider Trudeau’s greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada’s last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate. But just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean I can’t recognize the actual situation we’re facing.