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  • A archangel1313@lemmy.ca

    I think it should definitely impact what he’s willing to tolerate. Or do you think he should betray his own convictions, just to appease a political bully? So much for “elbows up”, then? Now, it’s just, “Whatever you say, Mr. Trump”?

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    West_of_West
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    #13

    If you are the head of a state you don’t get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

    Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute “Buy Canadian”

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    • B ByteOnBikes

      President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

      The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

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      resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
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      Trump is an expert on children’s sex.

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      • MereoM Mereo

        What do you want him to do? Insult him and call him a bully so that you feel better? We live in the real world, where actions have real consequences.

        The US is still our largest partner, and every action we take has real repercussions, such as job loss. In my opinion, he’s doing a good job handling him because Trump is unpredictable.

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        snooggums
        wrote on last edited by snooggums@piefed.world
        #15

        What do you want him to do? Insult him and call him a bully so that you feel better?

        As an American, YES. Trump is going to fuck you no matter what, so stand up for yourself.

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        • W West_of_West

          If you are the head of a state you don’t get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

          Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute “Buy Canadian”

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          archangel1313@lemmy.ca
          wrote on last edited by archangel1313@lemmy.ca
          #16

          And, again…is it “in the interest of the state” to capitulate to economic extortion? We’re just giving him what he wants, and getting nothing in return? And our leader is sitting there while he insults us all…including his own kid. What the actual fuck does that say about us? It says we’re weak, and Trump can say and do whatever the hell he wants, without consequences.

          And for the record, Trump is not going to “walk back” those tariffs. He’s not only using them to fund his domestic agenda, but also to pursue his foreign policy agenda. They are his leverage over us.

          Why would anyone assume he’s going to just let that leverage go, especially when it’s working? That’s just ridiculous.

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          • M masterofn001

            The trump answer is complex and will invariably end in bloodshed no matter the choices. Whether sooner or later is the question.

            Appeasement is never the solution.

            Delaying while preparing could be a strategy.

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            archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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            #17

            Unfortunately, I agree with you. If history is any indicator, this is not going to end well…for any of us. We need to prepare that inevitability.

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            • MereoM Mereo

              What do you want him to do? Insult him and call him a bully so that you feel better? We live in the real world, where actions have real consequences.

              The US is still our largest partner, and every action we take has real repercussions, such as job loss. In my opinion, he’s doing a good job handling him because Trump is unpredictable.

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              archangel1313@lemmy.ca
              wrote on last edited by
              #18

              A savvy leader doesn’t need to insult anyone, in order to make their position clear.

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              • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                I’m certain the basic ability to do so isn’t the problem. More like, they have us at a disadvantage and he thinks tolerating Trump is the smartest play. Time will tell if that works out at all.

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                n4ch1sm0
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                #19

                Typical neolib capitulation- ahem I mean tolerance. That’s worked great for the Americans, I’m sure it’ll work for the Canadians /s

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                • A archangel1313@lemmy.ca

                  Unfortunately, I agree with you. If history is any indicator, this is not going to end well…for any of us. We need to prepare that inevitability.

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                  masterofn001
                  wrote on last edited by masterofn001@lemmy.ca
                  #20

                  (Everythimg said is meant to be taken in a general.context and not specific to you - except the part about creeping your profile. I speak like that sometimes, and I don’t mean to say anything about you specifically)

                  I may not agree with everything you say or think, (I don’t know, I haven’t creeped your profile), but the ability for us to disagree (as long as it doesn’t harm anyone - except those who seek to destroy us) is the basis for civil society, and as of now, whatever differences you and I may or may not have regarding our current life choice or lifestyles is immaterial in the face of a literal apocalyptic threat coming from south of our border.

                  We all need to suck it up and put our truly petty differences aside in order to essentially save our nation, and our humanity, and humanity as a whole, for that matter.

                  I’m all about do whatever the fuck you want to do. As long as you don’t hurt myself or others,cool. I don’t give one fuck.

                  What I do care about is stopping a psychopath and his neonazi evangelizers destroy any hope for any future that isn’t pure hell.

                  Can we do that?

                  Can we just relax our tribalism that people like trump has allowed the powers to foment this artificial hatred so many of us have let take hold of us?

                  Can we work as one for the common good?

                  I fucking hope so.

                  Or we all die in our smug righteousness.

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                  • S snooggums

                    What do you want him to do? Insult him and call him a bully so that you feel better?

                    As an American, YES. Trump is going to fuck you no matter what, so stand up for yourself.

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                    funkajunk
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                    #21

                    Unfortunately, that clown is going to be in office for a few more years, unless your people throw him out (unlikely), or he dies of a stroke/heart failure (more likely).

                    Just because we are going to get fucked, doesn’t mean you want to provoke anything either - you don’t want to get fucked repeatedly and from different angles if you can help it.

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                    • A archangel1313@lemmy.ca

                      Carney has already proven that he is incapable of actually standing up to Trump, so this doesn’t surprise me. If he isn’t willing to stick up for his own kid, how can we expect him to stick up for the rest of us?

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                      drdickhandler@lemmy.world
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                      Imagine being this dense thinking that Canada has any leverage.

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                        When he’s not looking

                        Why? It’s not like he has the reflexes to dodge. Let him see it coming.

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                        tigeroovy@lemmy.ca
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                        If Carney just punched him in the face I would vote for him again based on that alone.

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                        • D drdickhandler@lemmy.world

                          Imagine being this dense thinking that Canada has any leverage.

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                          archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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                          Lol! Canada can shut off the power to the entire North Eastern seaboard. We can also coordinate with our European allies and start selling off all our US bonds, effectively tanking the value of the US dollar.

                          That’s leverage.

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                          • M masterofn001

                            The trump answer is complex and will invariably end in bloodshed no matter the choices. Whether sooner or later is the question.

                            Appeasement is never the solution.

                            Delaying while preparing could be a strategy.

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                            Nik282000
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                            #25

                            Better sooner than later. Trump is a traitor to humanity. Hang him.

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                            • W West_of_West

                              If you are the head of a state you don’t get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

                              Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute “Buy Canadian”

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                              woodscientist@lemmy.world
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                              Or a nation could try not selling its soul for a buck.

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                              • W West_of_West

                                If you are the head of a state you don’t get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

                                Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute “Buy Canadian”

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                                Sunshine (she/her)
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                                #27

                                King Charles is the head of state.

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                                • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                                  I’m certain the basic ability to do so isn’t the problem. More like, they have us at a disadvantage and he thinks tolerating Trump is the smartest play. Time will tell if that works out at all.

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                                  Avid Amoeba
                                  wrote on last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
                                  #28

                                  I heard a nice line on CBC Power & Politics today - that what we’re feeling right now is the powerlessness Latin American countries have been feling for a long time while being in the US’es crosshair.

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                                  • M masterofn001

                                    (Everythimg said is meant to be taken in a general.context and not specific to you - except the part about creeping your profile. I speak like that sometimes, and I don’t mean to say anything about you specifically)

                                    I may not agree with everything you say or think, (I don’t know, I haven’t creeped your profile), but the ability for us to disagree (as long as it doesn’t harm anyone - except those who seek to destroy us) is the basis for civil society, and as of now, whatever differences you and I may or may not have regarding our current life choice or lifestyles is immaterial in the face of a literal apocalyptic threat coming from south of our border.

                                    We all need to suck it up and put our truly petty differences aside in order to essentially save our nation, and our humanity, and humanity as a whole, for that matter.

                                    I’m all about do whatever the fuck you want to do. As long as you don’t hurt myself or others,cool. I don’t give one fuck.

                                    What I do care about is stopping a psychopath and his neonazi evangelizers destroy any hope for any future that isn’t pure hell.

                                    Can we do that?

                                    Can we just relax our tribalism that people like trump has allowed the powers to foment this artificial hatred so many of us have let take hold of us?

                                    Can we work as one for the common good?

                                    I fucking hope so.

                                    Or we all die in our smug righteousness.

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                                    traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Nazis’ whole deal is crushing those who can’t or won’t crush back. Calls to not oppose them are fundamentally calls to enable their conquest and terror

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                                    • N n4ch1sm0

                                      Typical neolib capitulation- ahem I mean tolerance. That’s worked great for the Americans, I’m sure it’ll work for the Canadians /s

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                                      idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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                                      #30

                                      Appeasement, if you’re nasty

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                                      • T traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                        Nazis’ whole deal is crushing those who can’t or won’t crush back. Calls to not oppose them are fundamentally calls to enable their conquest and terror

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                                        masterofn001
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #31

                                        I have been calling for much more than merely opposing - for a very long time.

                                        What I am asking for is for us to set aside our personal differences to do the crushing as one.

                                        When that’s done, we can debate our petty grievances and parliamentary theatrics once again.

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                                        • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                                          I heard a nice line on CBC Power & Politics today - that what we’re feeling right now is the powerlessness Latin American countries have been feling for a long time while being in the US’es crosshair.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #32

                                          Alliance time 😆

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