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  • J jesus_666@lemmy.world

    Eh, Heroic isn’t free of fault either; e.g. when it offered to auto-install REDmod along with CP2077 I couldn’t launch the game because the REDmod it installed was completely broken. I’d say that Steam is slightly less buggy than Heroic overall, both of them being pretty damn solid. Haven’t used Lutris much because, well, Steam and Heroic work well enough.

    Would a leaner Steam be nice? Yeah, but reliable, lean cross-platform GUI toolkits aren’t easy to come by.

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    tattorack@lemmy.world
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    Can’t play Stellaris through Heroic because of the launcher being broken.

    Bypassing the launcher requires some convoluted setup, and it also removes the ease of modding.

    Manually installing Stellaris through Lutris works, but Lutris isn’t well maintained, and even though it’s connected to GOG, doesn’t update Stellaris. Says it can’t find updates despite there clearly being one.

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      falsewhite@lemmy.world
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      What did Steam do to offend you?

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        pissmidget@lemmy.world
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        But this does nothing to address my need for towering pillars of hats, masks, and outfits!

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          nomorereddit@lemmy.today
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          Nope! I’ll horde steam and gog both, now i shame you into flossing your feet and brushing your butt.

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            eiri@lemmy.ca
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            I feel like GOG would be more popular if their client were better. Maybe more usable with a controller too?

            And something that would help competition in the game launcher space in particular would be if OSes had great built-in controller support (and controller OS navigation) so we wouldn’t have to rely on Steam for it.

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            • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

              Shit buggy client you can’t customize and with integrated ram-eating webbrowser you are forced to launch to play the game. Vs. native hubs that integrate GoG, itch & co seamlessly, setup and runners and all.

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              nixus
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              I get both sides of this. I understand wanting GoG to have an official Linux client, but the Steam Client is such garbage.

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                I’m on Linux as well and I just use heroic for my gog library

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                nixus
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                I like both Heroic and Lutris

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                  slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works
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                  I think these days, “costumers” are called “cosplayers”

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                  • KushanK Kushan

                    Steam doesn’t enforce the use of its DRM (which is super easy to bypass anyway but that’s a side note).

                    Steam lets you publish your game on their platform and hand out as many keys as you like to resell on other platforms (at no cost) while still doing all the heavy lifting of hosting and distributing.

                    Steam doesn’t decide what kinds of titles get published on their platform any more than GoG does, so the bit about remasters, etc. is a bit weird. Besides you the user should get to decide what you want to buy and play.

                    I love GoG, but I love Steam as well. They’re not mutually exclusive and you can have both.

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                    cabbage_pout61@lemmy.world
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                    Imagine being sane, neither an steam only, pc master race enthusiast, nor a FOSS Linux 100% privacy and anonymity zealot.

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                      chunes@lemmy.world
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                      An under-discussed topic is what will happen to Steam after Gaben crosses the rainbow bridge. It’s practically begging to be enshittified.

                      With games I own, I never have to worry about this.

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                        axle182@lemmy.world
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                        What sort of costumes do they do?

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                          appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          #40

                          Yeah…not really… 😕

                          For the nay sayers: https://www.gog.com/en/game/cyberpunk2077_piggyback_interactive_map

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                            mattw03@lemmy.ca
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                            Why not. As long as i get free key with my prime subscription. Not that i’m going to renew that, anyway.

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                            • KushanK Kushan

                              Steam doesn’t enforce the use of its DRM (which is super easy to bypass anyway but that’s a side note).

                              Steam lets you publish your game on their platform and hand out as many keys as you like to resell on other platforms (at no cost) while still doing all the heavy lifting of hosting and distributing.

                              Steam doesn’t decide what kinds of titles get published on their platform any more than GoG does, so the bit about remasters, etc. is a bit weird. Besides you the user should get to decide what you want to buy and play.

                              I love GoG, but I love Steam as well. They’re not mutually exclusive and you can have both.

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                              sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              Yeah, its like a lot of people don’t know you can just… move files out of Steam’s directory, and 95% of the time, game still runs, just, not through Steam.

                              What even is a Steam rip, anyway?

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                              • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB blackris@discuss.tchncs.de

                                Meh, Proton alone makes me like Steam a bit more than GOG. Itch.io is also nice, but for some shitty reasons, they have some problems with my debit card. While it is nice to support small devs, I hate to support Peter Thiel the absolute piece of human garbage with my payment.

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                                sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                #43

                                Imagine what happens if Steam Valve just stops developing Proton.

                                Oh, haha, well, then uh, in not too much time, linux gaming for all future games beyond that point goes back to being roughly where WINE was a decade ago, future games that work on linux goes back to being a really weird, esoteric, niche thing.

                                People really don’t understand that Proton basically is the most important project in the history of linux, of free software, in terms of getting an actually sizeable chunk of people to use linux regularly, to abandon corporate OSs.

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                                • P pissmidget@lemmy.world

                                  But this does nothing to address my need for towering pillars of hats, masks, and outfits!

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                                  GottaHaveFaith
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                                  Maybe someone should create a loot generator game…

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                                  • KushanK Kushan

                                    Steam doesn’t enforce the use of its DRM (which is super easy to bypass anyway but that’s a side note).

                                    Steam lets you publish your game on their platform and hand out as many keys as you like to resell on other platforms (at no cost) while still doing all the heavy lifting of hosting and distributing.

                                    Steam doesn’t decide what kinds of titles get published on their platform any more than GoG does, so the bit about remasters, etc. is a bit weird. Besides you the user should get to decide what you want to buy and play.

                                    I love GoG, but I love Steam as well. They’re not mutually exclusive and you can have both.

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                                    aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Steam is as much de facto a seller of DRM-free games as a electric appliances store is a seller of quake games machines: some people with the right skills might get quake to work in some of the smart fridges or smart TVs they sell, but they’re definitelly not made for it, definitelly not sold as supporting that feature and definitelly no support whatsoever is provided for that feature.

                                    When you’re making a purchasing decision on their store, Steam doesn’t tell you upfront if the game has or not their DRM hence you cannot make an informed decision on that factor: Steam most definitelly do not want potential customers to select games on the basis or absence of DRM.

                                    Also the install process of a game in a new machine with Steam is always via their store which can arbitrarily refuse you access to the games you supposedly bought (only according to Steam, you only “licensed” them) whilst with GOG once you downloaded the offline installer it’s de facto yours (even in legal environments where such sales are not treated the same as sales of games in physical media - which are treated as owned). The copying over of a Steam game is a hack, which even without the Steam phone-home DRM might not work, for example, if the game won’t run properly when certain registry keys created during install are not present.

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                                    • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Their acronym is “Good Old Games”, so I suspect it’s a play on that.

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                                      midnitte@beehaw.org
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                                      They also work to preserve old games, instead of just serving remasters.

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                                        pissmidget@lemmy.world
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                                        I do hope you’re as purposeful in misunderstanding me as I am in taking the costume/customer typo as an intended choice of wording.

                                        If so, kudos for beating me at my own game, because I’m not sure!

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                                          I do hope you’re as purposeful in misunderstanding me as I am in taking the costume/customer typo as an intended choice of wording.

                                          If so, kudos for beating me at my own game, because I’m not sure!

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                                          GottaHaveFaith
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                                          No I speed read your message just as tonight I speed slept (as in, I didn’t sleep much)

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