6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way again
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A complete overhaul is the prerequisite for this nightmare to be over.
And that overhaul is both far away and likely to be extremely painful.
I always tell Americans to just try to get out. Failing that, it’s about surviving and not making the situation even worse in the process.
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Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.
In the sense that the government and the people are misaligned? Or is this one of those “you’re united statesian, there are 30 countries in America” takes?
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In the sense that the government and the people are misaligned? Or is this one of those “you’re united statesian, there are 30 countries in America” takes?
The first. I don’t even know what the second thing is.
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They need to define “America”
That’s a continent. Two, actually. What does it mean to trust a land mass?
You never noticed that people from the USA are called “Americans” and that many people across the world call the USA “America?”
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The first. I don’t even know what the second thing is.
Ah, Threads and some other lower quality social media are full of people making snarky comments to users from the States, saying something to the effect of “we are also in the Americas, so we’re Americans, you’re a US-ian”.
It all basically stems from the fact that in Spanish, the demonym for people from the US is “estadounidense” (United-Statesian) whereas “America” is used to refer to all of North and South America as a regions. People are too dumb to realise “America” has a different connotation in the two languages and it devolves into flame wars.
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After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul
Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.
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I don’t blame them. I am (sadly) American, and I certainly don’t trust most Americans right now.
Edit to add: and don’t know that I ever will again.
This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.
Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…
They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…
Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have
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I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.
East Coast thing in my experience. Especially more rural
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Ah, Threads and some other lower quality social media are full of people making snarky comments to users from the States, saying something to the effect of “we are also in the Americas, so we’re Americans, you’re a US-ian”.
It all basically stems from the fact that in Spanish, the demonym for people from the US is “estadounidense” (United-Statesian) whereas “America” is used to refer to all of North and South America as a regions. People are too dumb to realise “America” has a different connotation in the two languages and it devolves into flame wars.
Ah gotcha. Not sure why that would devolve into flame wars. I would want to distance myself as far as possible from anything related to the US as possible if I had a choice.
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That’s okay, I haven’t trusted America in decades, and I’m American. Canadians are wise to be mistrustful of our GOVERNMENT. Most of the people are mostly cool. It’s just the MAGAs you have to hide your kids from.
Over half of the voters support what the government is doing. The US is cooked
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Strange way to bring up that particular atrocity.
Doesn’t seem to have any bearing on the subject matter of the OP, or the commenter you’re replying to.
Weird.
The parent comment alludes to “redface”
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Especially because they were doing it to protect their smuggling profits, not out of some great and noble cause.
Ungrateful sods too, because a lot of the war debt that the tariffs were meant to pay off were the result of beating the French on the American continent so that it could be settled by English colonists. Ever wonder why so many places in the US have French names? Detroit, Louisville, St. Louis, Lafayette, Reno (a.k.a. Renault), Arkansas, Illinois…
Could have just not had the war…
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After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul
It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.
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From Mary Poppins:
Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.
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How does an American pronounce it?
A vast majority of the Canadians I know pronounce it the same way as “out”, “sprout”, “trout” etc.
Like Ah-bout… “bout” pronounced like a fight between two people.
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This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.
Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…
They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…
Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have
Brecht:
“When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too.”
No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don’t, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.
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You never noticed that people from the USA are called “Americans” and that many people across the world call the USA “America?”
I’ve noticed a lot of stupid people say a lot of stupid stuff in my life, yes
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From Mary Poppins:
Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.
Haha, I’m stealing this to describe religious people
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Could have just not had the war…
Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.
During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.
This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.
This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.
After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.
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Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.
Cuba is illegal in the Untied States. All other countries should outlaw the Untied States, make it illegal to go there and illegal to possess anything made there, until the Untied States behaves itself.
