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  • Otter RaftO Otter Raft

    Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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    Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

    Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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    Captain Aggravated
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    They make these plastic caps that blunt kitty’s claws, if you need to take the scratch out of a cat. say, for human safety during socializing lessons.

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    • Captain AggravatedC Captain Aggravated

      They make these plastic caps that blunt kitty’s claws, if you need to take the scratch out of a cat. say, for human safety during socializing lessons.

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      fireretardant@lemmy.world
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      I’m gonna lose a limb just trying to get those onto my cats murder mitts.

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      • Otter RaftO Otter Raft

        Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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        Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

        Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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        driftinglynx@lemmy.ca
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        Why even have a cat if you’re going to mutilate their hands?

        Like, just get a dog if you can’t handle the claws.

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        • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

          I’m gonna lose a limb just trying to get those onto my cats murder mitts.

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          Captain Aggravated
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          If the cat is that fierce I think it’s time to talk to a vet anyway.

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          • Captain AggravatedC Captain Aggravated

            If the cat is that fierce I think it’s time to talk to a vet anyway.

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            fireretardant@lemmy.world
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            If your cat hasn’t drawn your blood, is it even your cat?

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            • driftinglynx@lemmy.caD driftinglynx@lemmy.ca

              Why even have a cat if you’re going to mutilate their hands?

              Like, just get a dog if you can’t handle the claws.

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              reluctantmuskrat@lemmy.world
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              I mean historically people didn’t necessarily think of it as mutilation, even if now most people understand it to be extreme. Many cats have bad scratching habits and people don’t know to train their cats not to do so. Some will definitely trash your furniture and people looked at de-clawing as a way to stop it vs giving up the cat for adoptuon. Are all cats even trainable to not scratch? I don’t know personally.

              I’m kind of curious how banning declawing of cats influences rates of abandonment and euthanization. I had many cats when I was younger, some which were bad scratchers and got de-clawed and others which weren’t prone to it so didn’t get de-clawed. I’d like to get one now but know my wife (and I probably) won’t be able to tolerate our furniture and drapes getting tore up if I can’t train it not to, and I hate the idea of adopting one only to give it up later, so I’ll likely not get one at all. I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

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              • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

                If your cat hasn’t drawn your blood, is it even your cat?

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                Captain Aggravated
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                My Izzy is a very sweet cat, she has never scratched me. Her style is to cuddle to death.

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                • Otter RaftO Otter Raft

                  Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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                  Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

                  Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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                  arankays@lemmy.ca
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                  My cat is a sweet bastard but doesn’t like being touched most of the time.

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                  • R reluctantmuskrat@lemmy.world

                    I mean historically people didn’t necessarily think of it as mutilation, even if now most people understand it to be extreme. Many cats have bad scratching habits and people don’t know to train their cats not to do so. Some will definitely trash your furniture and people looked at de-clawing as a way to stop it vs giving up the cat for adoptuon. Are all cats even trainable to not scratch? I don’t know personally.

                    I’m kind of curious how banning declawing of cats influences rates of abandonment and euthanization. I had many cats when I was younger, some which were bad scratchers and got de-clawed and others which weren’t prone to it so didn’t get de-clawed. I’d like to get one now but know my wife (and I probably) won’t be able to tolerate our furniture and drapes getting tore up if I can’t train it not to, and I hate the idea of adopting one only to give it up later, so I’ll likely not get one at all. I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

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                    ganryuu@lemmy.ca
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                    Cat nail caps are not a perfect answer to this problem, but still an infinitely better one than amputation (please don’t use the term declawing as it’s extremely misleading).

                    There’s also ways to encourage your cat to use scratch pads and the like instead of your furniture (cats hate citrus for example, so a bit of that where they want to scratch and they’ll find a new spot immediately).

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                    • V vivalapivo@lemmy.today

                      Wait, it’s like forbidden in almost all countries

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                      swelter_spark@reddthat.com
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                      It’s legal in the US, and sometimes even recommended by vets.

                      I met someone who had it done because she trusted her vet’s advice. Her cat completely changed.

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                      • swelter_spark@reddthat.comS swelter_spark@reddthat.com

                        It’s legal in the US, and sometimes even recommended by vets.

                        I met someone who had it done because she trusted her vet’s advice. Her cat completely changed.

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                        vivalapivo@lemmy.today
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                        It’s legal in Russia too, but it’s accepted as unethical and a few ostracized clinics can do the “soft paws” surgery

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                        • driftinglynx@lemmy.caD driftinglynx@lemmy.ca

                          Why even have a cat if you’re going to mutilate their hands?

                          Like, just get a dog if you can’t handle the claws.

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                          wrote on last edited by kolanaki@pawb.social
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                          Like, just get a dog if you can’t handle the claws.

                          Cats can retract theirs; dogs can’t. I’m not sure this would work out. Not to mention you gotta clip the dog’s every once in a while and if you do it wrong, you can hurt them.

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                          • Otter RaftO Otter Raft

                            Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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                            Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

                            Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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                            jennaclarke@lemmy.ca
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                            That’s why so many cats end up with chronic pain, behavioral issues, or even stop using the litter box after the procedure. There are far better alternatives like regular trimming, scratching posts, or soft nail caps. It feels like one of those practices we’ll look back on and wonder how it was ever considered acceptable.

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                              Like, just get a dog if you can’t handle the claws.

                              Cats can retract theirs; dogs can’t. I’m not sure this would work out. Not to mention you gotta clip the dog’s every once in a while and if you do it wrong, you can hurt them.

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                              bramkaandorp@lemmy.world
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                              Sure, but their nails aren’t typically as sharp as cats’ claws, so there is that.

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                              • G ganryuu@lemmy.ca

                                The simple fact that we still call it “declawing” is so infuriating… I’ve had to tell a lot of people around me that it actually is an amputation.

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                                voracitude@lemmy.world
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                                TIL 😱 Poor little kitties, why are humans so thoughtlessly monstrous?

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                                • Captain AggravatedC Captain Aggravated

                                  They make these plastic caps that blunt kitty’s claws, if you need to take the scratch out of a cat. say, for human safety during socializing lessons.

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                                  apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca
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                                  It’s also super easy to clip a cats nails every other week. I have two cats and have fostered others, and I’ve clipped them all to keep the nails short and dull.

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                                  • R reluctantmuskrat@lemmy.world

                                    I mean historically people didn’t necessarily think of it as mutilation, even if now most people understand it to be extreme. Many cats have bad scratching habits and people don’t know to train their cats not to do so. Some will definitely trash your furniture and people looked at de-clawing as a way to stop it vs giving up the cat for adoptuon. Are all cats even trainable to not scratch? I don’t know personally.

                                    I’m kind of curious how banning declawing of cats influences rates of abandonment and euthanization. I had many cats when I was younger, some which were bad scratchers and got de-clawed and others which weren’t prone to it so didn’t get de-clawed. I’d like to get one now but know my wife (and I probably) won’t be able to tolerate our furniture and drapes getting tore up if I can’t train it not to, and I hate the idea of adopting one only to give it up later, so I’ll likely not get one at all. I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

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                                    shawiniganhandshake@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Scratching is part claw maintenance and part territorial marking / decorating. And it feels good for them! If you catch a cat scratching the furniture, scolding them will usually get them to stop. Most cats will quit scratching the furniture entirely if you give them more appealing things to scratch. It has to be a good height, very stable, and have a texture they like.

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                                    • R reluctantmuskrat@lemmy.world

                                      I mean historically people didn’t necessarily think of it as mutilation, even if now most people understand it to be extreme. Many cats have bad scratching habits and people don’t know to train their cats not to do so. Some will definitely trash your furniture and people looked at de-clawing as a way to stop it vs giving up the cat for adoptuon. Are all cats even trainable to not scratch? I don’t know personally.

                                      I’m kind of curious how banning declawing of cats influences rates of abandonment and euthanization. I had many cats when I was younger, some which were bad scratchers and got de-clawed and others which weren’t prone to it so didn’t get de-clawed. I’d like to get one now but know my wife (and I probably) won’t be able to tolerate our furniture and drapes getting tore up if I can’t train it not to, and I hate the idea of adopting one only to give it up later, so I’ll likely not get one at all. I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

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                                      mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Simply clipping the tips of the claws goes a long way to prevent furniture destruction, when combined with a scratching/climbing tree. Some cats like sisal but others prefer carpet on the posts. I have a routine with my present cat where she knows if she jumps to a certain place she’ll get a couple Dental Treats, but before she jumps I briefly check her front paws. If there’s a longer, sharper nail, I clip it, just the tip. Then I put up the treat. That way she never has to put up with more than one or two snips. I use a regular toenail clipper, but a big sharp quality one. And turn it because claws are taller than they are wide.

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                                        Like, just get a dog if you can’t handle the claws.

                                        Cats can retract theirs; dogs can’t. I’m not sure this would work out. Not to mention you gotta clip the dog’s every once in a while and if you do it wrong, you can hurt them.

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                                        frederiknjs@lemmy.zip
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                                        Cat’s claws are for hunting, fighting and climbing. They are extremely sharp, and can rip your skin and make you bleed without even trying.

                                        Dog’s claws are for traction and digging. Usually dogs claws are dull, they might still cause a big of damage to the top most layer of your skin, but they have to make an effort to draw blood. Dogs hunt and fight with their teeth instead of their claws.

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                                        • Otter RaftO Otter Raft

                                          Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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                                          Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

                                          Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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                                          seleni@lemmy.world
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                                          As bad as declawing can be, there is something worse: cutting the tendons so they can’t flex their claws anymore.

                                          I had a cat I adopted off the street that had that done, and because he couldn’t scratch things his claws had grown through the pads of his feet.

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