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Canada rescinds Digital Services Tax after Trump cuts off U.S. trade talks

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  • C cm0002@lemmy.world
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    lembot_0004@discuss.online
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    Listen, Canadians, you don’t need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That’s it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

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    • L lembot_0004@discuss.online

      Listen, Canadians, you don’t need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That’s it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

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      brown567@sh.itjust.works
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      Buying stuff from the US isn’t affected by US tariffs!?

      Tariffs would be when you sell things to the US, and even then you’re not the one paying them, it’s just the US government charging its citizens extra to buy things

      I know it’s tough to wrap one’s head around an idea so fervently championed yet obviously self-defeating XD

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      • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

        Well, surely just one little capitulation will win Trump’s favour, and not sent him the message that Canada’s weak and he should push for more, right?

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        brown567@sh.itjust.works
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        CACO, I guess XD

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        • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

          Ah yes because the prime minister or president of a country represents the character of every single person in that county.

          Guess that means all Americans are egotistic psychopaths.

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          brown567@sh.itjust.works
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          Guess that means all Americans are egotistic psychopaths.

          True fact! (Joking, you make a good point)

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          • B bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            No, Europe’s just the same

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            sbv@sh.itjust.works
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            Last month, the U.S. and Britain announced a trade deal related to a range of products. But Britain’s 2-per-cent DST was not affected.

            In a statement at the time, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said the U.S. “is disappointed that Britain was unwilling to agree to fully address its discriminatory Digital Services Tax.”

            Britain kept theirs. They’d probably argue that they aren’t European, but y’know.

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            • C cobrachicken3000@lemmy.ca

              There better be a fucking explanation. To roll over, especially after the most recent 51st state bullshit? You better have a good goddamn reason.

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              sbv@sh.itjust.works
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              I’m guessing the reason is supply management on dairy.

              There’s a large rural Quebecois voting block that really likes supply management. By dropping the DST, Carney can cede something to Trump without pissing them off. The DST doesn’t have the same constituency, so it’ll hurt the LPC less during the next election.

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              • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                Wtf? There better be a good reason why.

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                sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                Supply management on dairy. The yanks have hated that for a while, but there’s a bunch of Quebecois dairy farmers who really like it. I’m guessing that Carney is giving up the DST since it doesn’t have a constituency - if that allows him to keep supply management on dairy, it’ll be easier to keep Quebec’s support during the next election.

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                • StametsS Stamets

                  I’ll never vote for a Liberal candidate again for as long as I live, regardless of ABC. I don’t give a fuck what the threat is. They’re effectively Democrats. Fundamentally worthless from soul to spine.

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                  Jerkface (any/all)
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                  #35

                  Yeah. No shit. The LPC is literally a right-leaning party. ABC means ABC. Glad you’re up to speed.

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                  • B brown567@sh.itjust.works

                    Buying stuff from the US isn’t affected by US tariffs!?

                    Tariffs would be when you sell things to the US, and even then you’re not the one paying them, it’s just the US government charging its citizens extra to buy things

                    I know it’s tough to wrap one’s head around an idea so fervently championed yet obviously self-defeating XD

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                    lembot_0004@discuss.online
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                    No, the concept is trivial. I just point out that the coefficient isn’t important if the value is zero. And Canadians can make it zero at least at one direction.

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                    • C yeehaw

                      This is not what I voted for. What the fuck?

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                      enkers
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                      #37

                      I sincerely hope you learn something from this. This is the Liberal m.o. and has been for years. They’re a big business party, and don’t have typical Canadian’s interests at heart. Their most redeeming feature is that they’re not the Cons.

                      If you actually care about bettering the lives of typical Canadians, then look at what parties have track records of getting results. (Hint: A lot of Canadians just got dental care.)

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                      • StametsS Stamets

                        I’ll never vote for a Liberal candidate again for as long as I live, regardless of ABC. I don’t give a fuck what the threat is. They’re effectively Democrats. Fundamentally worthless from soul to spine.

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                        enkers
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                        #38

                        That’s what I said after they fucked us on electoral reform. Being a principled voter is the correct pragmatic decision in the long term.

                        ABC results in US two-party system.

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                        • L lembot_0004@discuss.online

                          Listen, Canadians, you don’t need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That’s it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

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                          kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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                          Just stop buying US shit.

                          Those of us who give a damn are already doing that as much as possible.

                          Unfortunately the 1000 pound gorilla that is the USA had taken over some parts of our economy to the point where there is no way to avoid them completely.

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                          • C cm0002@lemmy.world
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                            humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                            Disturbing, as this was a significant revenue raiser that could help with those disenfranchised through tariffs, or fund the absurd destruction of Canada through 200% military spending increase. Continued US military alliance signals further capitulation, but just as attack on Iran was apparent end of war through victory declaration, there may be a quick return to status quo. OTOH, complete subjugation may be more likely.

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                            • E enkers

                              I sincerely hope you learn something from this. This is the Liberal m.o. and has been for years. They’re a big business party, and don’t have typical Canadian’s interests at heart. Their most redeeming feature is that they’re not the Cons.

                              If you actually care about bettering the lives of typical Canadians, then look at what parties have track records of getting results. (Hint: A lot of Canadians just got dental care.)

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                              yeehaw
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                              PP didn’t seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

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                              • Daniel QuinnD Daniel Quinn

                                You voted for Liberals. Their only persistent trait is lying to the public about who they are and then siding with big business once elected.

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                                yeehaw
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                                And I don’t think cons would have been any better.

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                                  And I don’t think cons would have been any better.

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                                  Daniel Quinn
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                                  Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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                                  • E enkers

                                    That’s what I said after they fucked us on electoral reform. Being a principled voter is the correct pragmatic decision in the long term.

                                    ABC results in US two-party system.

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                                    Jerkface (any/all)
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                                    ABC results in voting NDP and sometimes Green, Animal Liberation, etc. but not CPC or LPC.

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                                    • C cm0002@lemmy.world
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                                      Swordgeek
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                                      FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

                                      Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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                                      • C yeehaw

                                        This is not what I voted for. What the fuck?

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                                        john_lemmy@slrpnk.net
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                                        You can’t really stand up to power by voting, unfortunately. All your choices are just different ways of giving these jackals power with more or fewer steps.

                                        I hope there are local groups and organizations where you’re at that you can join to start to organize a grassroots movement.

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                                        • Daniel QuinnD Daniel Quinn

                                          Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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                                          floofloof@lemmy.ca
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                                          It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

                                          That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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