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Girl Filmed "Consent Video" After "Doing The Whole Hockey Team" Leads To SA Case Acquitted - YouTube

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  • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

    Bigger breaking news: Giving someone a blowjob IS having sex with them. Whoosh.

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    icytrees@sh.itjust.works
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    #35

    I just gave this guy a blowjob and he stuck it in my ass after. I guess it’s all just sex, right? It’s all the same hole in the end.

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    • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

      Of course I dont believe in consent. Its a mans world. We take what we want when we want it. That’s the way its supposed to be. /s

      C’mon man, its not your first day on the internet nor mine. You know and I know exactly where that kind of personal question leads and Im not that dumb.

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      1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca
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      #36

      listen, believe what you want to believe ya? When someone asks for consent, first learn what consent means and why it’s important.

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      • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

        Are you trying to say that a blowjob is NOT sex?

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        1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca
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        #37

        let me ask you this, do you think, if someone consents to a blowjob, that means they also consent to penetration?

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        • A auli@lemmy.ca

          I’m I wrong or is it odd she did a consent video after the fact surrounded by a bunch of guys. Like they doesn’t seem like pressure to anyone else.

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          Phoenixz
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          #38

          Maybe but like that there is no way to do anything like this anymore.

          This may come as a shock to some people but many women enjoy sex, many women enjoy gangbangs, and a women making a consent nvidronfor a gangbang is something I’ve never heard of before and FFS, shouldn’t be necessary.

          But she did anyway and the result on the Internet is: weeeeellll, I think she was forced anyways!

          So now what? Do we need a notarized confession of consent before we can have sex?

          I get the problem, but I also get that we remove any natural normal human interactions with this.

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          • I icytrees@sh.itjust.works

            Okay… but like you get the whole thing where you can’t really have an informed opinion on something you didn’t watch, right? You don’t have to comment on things you don’t want to watch or read.

            I’m happy for you and your wife! Super weird projecting though, where you equate promiscuity with cheating and short term relationships. I do enjoy short term sexual relationships on occasion, so I like to make sure I’m doing the things my partners want done. After all, you never know someone’s past or preferences.

            No one ever said anything about getting consent to change positions and certainly not in a long term, committed relationship. They said consenting to a blowjob didn’t imply consent to other sexual acts. In fact, it’s in the criminal code. That’s probably why the prosecutor brought it up:

            Sections 276 to 276.5 of the Criminal Code govern the admission of evidence regarding a sexual assault complainant’s other sexual activity. The Code makes it clear that evidence that a complainant has engaged in sexual activity is not admissible to suggest that the victim was more likely to have consented to the sexual activity which is the subject matter of the charge or that he/she is less worthy of belief.

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            lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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            #39

            I brought up the cheating because it was part of the case. The woman in question was at a hotel bar, got tipsy, picked up the hockey player and despite being engaged, went up to his hotel room for some fun.

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            • N njm1314@lemmy.world

              Exactly, so next time maybe don’t bring up how you like to fuck your wife out of the blue.

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              lovecanada@lemmy.ca
              wrote on last edited by lovecanada@lemmy.ca
              #40

              This is Lemmy and the topic was sex and consent and sexual propriety, which as a guy who’s been married twice, once the wrong way and once the right way, I happen to have some opinions on. Not a expert, just know the difference between a good sexual relationship and a bad one so my experience is applicable. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

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              • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                This is Lemmy and the topic was sex and consent and sexual propriety, which as a guy who’s been married twice, once the wrong way and once the right way, I happen to have some opinions on. Not a expert, just know the difference between a good sexual relationship and a bad one so my experience is applicable. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

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                njm1314@lemmy.world
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                #41

                And now you’re giving a Ted Talk on how to fuck your wife. What a weirdo.

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                • N njm1314@lemmy.world

                  And now you’re giving a Ted Talk on how to fuck your wife. What a weirdo.

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                  lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                  #42

                  Im not the one dragging out this conversation looking for more things to criticize you about. Buh bye.

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                  • I icytrees@sh.itjust.works

                    I just gave this guy a blowjob and he stuck it in my ass after. I guess it’s all just sex, right? It’s all the same hole in the end.

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                    lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                    #43

                    Eww. Not likely.

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                    • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                      Eww. Not likely.

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                      icytrees@sh.itjust.works
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                      #44

                      Yeah that’s why we ask first.

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                      • I icytrees@sh.itjust.works

                        It took me too long to figure out she was saying ‘SA-ing’ and not ‘essay-ing.’ I thought it was new Gen Z slang.

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                        ragingnerdoholic@lemmy.ca
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                        God, I fucking hate the self censoring so much. There is just something so corpo-cucked about it.

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                        • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                          I didnt watch the video (2 hours? No thanks) but I think the judge made it clear that the primary witness gave unreliable and untrustworthy testimony which really sank her credibility in this case.

                          It hit peak head shaking wonder when the Crown prosecutor argued that just because she was sucking on a guy’s johnson doesnt mean she was consenting to other sex acts? Specifically “You cannot treat that as a communication of consent to any other sexual act.” Which means, in that lawyer’s world, one must ask consent to every individual act.

                          Does that include changing positions good sir? “Uh, just because I did doggy style doesnt mean I consented to reverse cowgirl. How DARE you assume I consented!”

                          Hmm, I get the impression these people have never actually had a sexual relationship? Probably just safer to print out a consent form for each act and then have both parties sign before each act to make it clear they were both ok with it. I heard that works /s

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                          programmingsocks@pawb.social
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                          What the fuck? Yes, as you’re having sex with someone it is completely normal and good to ask AT LEAST “would this be OK?” or “can we …” as you go along. Consent to one thing isn’t the same as consent to everything. Having consensual sex with a condom becomes unconsensual if one removes the condom unbeknownst to the other, for example.

                          You clearly fundamentally don’t understand consent.

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                          • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                            I brought up the cheating because it was part of the case. The woman in question was at a hotel bar, got tipsy, picked up the hockey player and despite being engaged, went up to his hotel room for some fun.

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                            icytrees@sh.itjust.works
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                            #47

                            Something that has nothing to do with whether she consented. What decade are you from?

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                            • P Phoenixz

                              Maybe but like that there is no way to do anything like this anymore.

                              This may come as a shock to some people but many women enjoy sex, many women enjoy gangbangs, and a women making a consent nvidronfor a gangbang is something I’ve never heard of before and FFS, shouldn’t be necessary.

                              But she did anyway and the result on the Internet is: weeeeellll, I think she was forced anyways!

                              So now what? Do we need a notarized confession of consent before we can have sex?

                              I get the problem, but I also get that we remove any natural normal human interactions with this.

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                              krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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                              #48

                              The world needs more nvidronfor period. I don’t care what people think. If you agree with me or not. Any woman, and any man for that matter, should be able to make as many nvidronfor as they want.

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                              • 1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca1 1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca

                                yeah SA is kinda new and a way to keep videos flagged for inappropriate content. Honestly i know its annoying but they have to cover themselves so the video doesn’t get flagged.

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                                krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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                                #49

                                How about you stop using fucking platforms that do this shit?

                                Fuck the platforms and fuck all the shit-eating cocksmiths that perpetuate this asinine bullshit.

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                                • 1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca1 1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca

                                  when i heard the news come out from the acquittal, i was not happy with the outcome. I feel like it required further investigation and judicial action.

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                                  dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                  The very reason that SA cases are so hard to prove is that the investigations are often just character and hearsay based.

                                  Personally I’d say filming a consent video after the act, surrounded by the men, is evidence against consent, not for it.

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                                  • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                                    This is Lemmy and the topic was sex and consent and sexual propriety, which as a guy who’s been married twice, once the wrong way and once the right way, I happen to have some opinions on. Not a expert, just know the difference between a good sexual relationship and a bad one so my experience is applicable. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

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                                    orioler25@lemmy.ca
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                                    The guy who thinks consent is fake got divorced, go figure.

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                                    • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                                      I didnt watch the video (2 hours? No thanks) but I think the judge made it clear that the primary witness gave unreliable and untrustworthy testimony which really sank her credibility in this case.

                                      It hit peak head shaking wonder when the Crown prosecutor argued that just because she was sucking on a guy’s johnson doesnt mean she was consenting to other sex acts? Specifically “You cannot treat that as a communication of consent to any other sexual act.” Which means, in that lawyer’s world, one must ask consent to every individual act.

                                      Does that include changing positions good sir? “Uh, just because I did doggy style doesnt mean I consented to reverse cowgirl. How DARE you assume I consented!”

                                      Hmm, I get the impression these people have never actually had a sexual relationship? Probably just safer to print out a consent form for each act and then have both parties sign before each act to make it clear they were both ok with it. I heard that works /s

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                                      pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      #52

                                      ??? By your logic, if you’re ok with me sucking your dick, then tying you down and fucking your urethra is clearly ok

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                                      • P programmingsocks@pawb.social

                                        What the fuck? Yes, as you’re having sex with someone it is completely normal and good to ask AT LEAST “would this be OK?” or “can we …” as you go along. Consent to one thing isn’t the same as consent to everything. Having consensual sex with a condom becomes unconsensual if one removes the condom unbeknownst to the other, for example.

                                        You clearly fundamentally don’t understand consent.

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                                        lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                                        #53

                                        I clearly fundamentally dont believe in casual sexual relationships where consent is an issue. The problem isn’t consent. Its that people have normalized hooking up with sexual partners they barely know, before they’ve even formed any kind of a bond, and then have to precariously navigate all kinds of sexual etiquette because there is little trust, little relationship and no commitment. Sexual assault from lack of consent is a problem created by people who have not made a commitment to love, cherish, protect and nurture the love of their life and made a lasting commitment to them. Its not rocket science to note that the people in this case only met each other a few hours before this whole sordid event happened and were only out for some ‘fun’. Its also not rocket science to note that the number of cases of committed couples who have been together for years dragging the issue of ‘consent’ into a courtroom is far far less, if you can even find those cases at all.

                                        If you play with fire, you’re gonna get burned. Just ask some hockey players.

                                        And Im 100% sure that my opinion will be fully accepted here on Lemmy especially by those who love their bar crawling hookups so Im gonna leave it at that. lol. I’m out.

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                                        • D dragontypewyvern@midwest.social

                                          The very reason that SA cases are so hard to prove is that the investigations are often just character and hearsay based.

                                          Personally I’d say filming a consent video after the act, surrounded by the men, is evidence against consent, not for it.

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                                          1985mustangcobra@lemmy.ca
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                                          #54

                                          yeah i agree 100%

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