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When will America realize that this is not a joke. They'll be laughing right up to the goosestepping.

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  • owenfromcanada@lemmy.caO owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca

    The world doesn’t need to go to war, it needs to stop being afraid of a major economic downturn.

    Stop everything with the US: trade, travel, everything. Deport all Americans back to their native soil. Isolate them, and see how quickly things change.

    While we’re at it, do the same with Russia and Israel. And maybe China?

    Would it cause a global economic crisis? Probably. But people are already dying—it’s worth it if we can actually end a genocide and a couple wars.

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    horsecook@sh.itjust.works
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    to prevent WW3, we need to take the exact actions that were taken in the lead-up to WW2

    Brilliant.

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    • Z zephorah@discuss.online

      There are many who actually believe the midterms will solve this.

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      freshparsnip@lemmy.ca
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      I wish the midterms were overwith so people could stop hoping for that. But then it might be too late to do anything else

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      • owenfromcanada@lemmy.caO owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca

        The world doesn’t need to go to war, it needs to stop being afraid of a major economic downturn.

        Stop everything with the US: trade, travel, everything. Deport all Americans back to their native soil. Isolate them, and see how quickly things change.

        While we’re at it, do the same with Russia and Israel. And maybe China?

        Would it cause a global economic crisis? Probably. But people are already dying—it’s worth it if we can actually end a genocide and a couple wars.

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        Valmond
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        From an EU perspective that sounds like isolationism, I mean the USA, China, Russia, … would basically be forced to trade more between them.

        It could work if selective, but we’d need the rest of the world on our side first or it’d just backfire.

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        • Z zephorah@discuss.online

          There are many who actually believe the midterms will solve this.

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          Valmond
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          How’s the polls?

          Any polls on what happens if your donald dies before the election in november?

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          • F foodandart@lemmy.zip

            One can hope. It will be delicious watching the GOP self immolate in the ensuing squabbles.

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            Valmond
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            Then there will be a victor… Promising to really mAkE maga great again and people will fall for it. Again.

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            • Z zorque@lemmy.world

              Most of the people in charge don’t have their value in USD, they have it in material and speculative value. The crash of the USD will hurt everyone but them.

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              D_C
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              #53

              Would this finally cause the american population enough distress to heave themselves off their armchairs, put down their hotdogs, turn off the TV, and get out the guillotines?

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              • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                • C Cethin

                  I don’t, but also I’m fucking doing it. It takes all of five minutes. You’ve got the time to do it. You might as well. It can only help. It won’t solve the problem, but it will make it harder for them.

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                  NoneOfUrBusiness
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                  No that’s the thing: If the problem isn’t solved by the midterms, it’s already checkmate. The main goal of an aspiring dictator like Trump is to disable the system’s checks and balances and prepare for their ultimate seizure of power. Thanks to decades of executive overreach most of the groundwork is already in place, so it’s entirely possible that Trump can get to a point where launching a coup is a realistic prospect by the end of the year, in which case he’s just going to do it because he can’t afford to be removed from power or he’ll be thrown in jail.

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                  • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                    Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                    remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world
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                    Miller is the ghoul behind a lot of the worst of what the government is doing. Trump is bad, but he’s an idiot. Miller knows what he’s doing and has a plan.

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                    • C Cethin

                      Honestly, still not a bad outcome. If it’s happening either way it might as well be sooner and not on his terms. If he launches a coup then no one can pretend to be blind anymore.

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                      KSP Atlas
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                      Nah, people will say he was justified in it and it was the best way to get “woke liberals” out of government or whatever

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                      • ValmondV Valmond

                        How’s the polls?

                        Any polls on what happens if your donald dies before the election in november?

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                        zephorah@discuss.online
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                        In the medical industry there is a unit called the ICU, the Intensive Care Unit. This is where the ventilators live. A common side remark made by staff, depending on the day, the type of patients there, is that they are vegetable gardeners. Crude, but oftentimes accurate.

                        90 year old grandmas whose time has come, who have died, but the families are not ready to let go. So, grandma now lays in ICU, with broken ribs from the CPR that brought her back, unconscious, muscles atrophying and body deconditioning to anything but a bed. Brain dead people who are “fighters” who are “gonna pull through”. And so on. Passive bodies, carefully tended and watered in perpetuity, until the ethics committee gets involved or the family runs out of money after insurance runs out. We have this technology.

                        The question here is, even if Donald Trump dies, will he be allowed to officially die? Or will he become an orange flower in an ICU vegetable garden, tended and watered in perpetuity?

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                        • C Cethin

                          I don’t, but also I’m fucking doing it. It takes all of five minutes. You’ve got the time to do it. You might as well. It can only help. It won’t solve the problem, but it will make it harder for them.

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                          zephorah@discuss.online
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                          Oh absolutely. Keep engaging the system, such as it is. But know it won’t be enough. More is required. More that will not be done white knight riding to the rescue.

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                          • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU ultragigagigantic@lemmy.ml

                            The time for electoral reform was 4 decades ago. Time to go through the motions. Good luck, and good night.

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                            zephorah@discuss.online
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                            The entire system rested on Americans being American enough to willingly engage in peaceful transfer of power, for 250 years. Now, 66 million voted in a dictator instead. This is what that looks like.

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                            • ZeroOneM ZeroOne

                              There’ll be a time when Latin America will say enough is enough.

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                              i hear this from everyone, and honestly, no one does anything

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                              • L lefantome@programming.dev

                                So much this. Just 100% stop all trade with the United States. All of it. And zero travel. Then ban US travel to your country. Give them the isolation they crave.

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                                ranzispa@mander.xyz
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                                While most of US manufacturing is indeed not so useful anywhere, there are things you can not stop importing.

                                Software and computer parts are a good example.

                                Moreover, what’s the problem with Americans travelling to your country?

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                                • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

                                  I wish the midterms were overwith so people could stop hoping for that. But then it might be too late to do anything else

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                                  canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                  Honestly it seems too late already. Let the midterms rip!

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                                  • C Cethin

                                    I don’t, but also I’m fucking doing it. It takes all of five minutes. You’ve got the time to do it. You might as well. It can only help. It won’t solve the problem, but it will make it harder for them.

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                                    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                    Yep, vote. 'Cause why not, it won’t make their job easier.

                                    On the other hand, start thinking about escape.

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                                    • ZeroOneM ZeroOne

                                      Honestly at this point, I rather see Americans suffer. It would humble them. My country was attacked by US & a lot my fellow citizens committed suicide due to the massive blow from tariffs.

                                      I was too considering it.

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                                      soulg@ani.social
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                                      Don’t blame the Innocents for the actions of the guilty

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                                      • D D_C

                                        Would this finally cause the american population enough distress to heave themselves off their armchairs, put down their hotdogs, turn off the TV, and get out the guillotines?

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                                        soulg@ani.social
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                                        No that idea died when the military became infinitely more advanced than the populace

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                                          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                          Probably not a full-blown coup. He had lots of chances to do that already if his ducks were in a row, including 2020. But, US presidents have so much power there’s quite a range of lesser options one could employ to shut down democracy.

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