Quebec immigration minister wants to relegate multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history’ | CTVnews.ca
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Ces gars-là sont autant fucking raciste que les plus dumbs MAGA
I’ve got mixed feelings about this. On one hand I mostly like the idea of the Quebec social contract, the whole “democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism” bit.
But how would this be fairly enforced? What would make a person gender equality-y enough? Or pro-democratic enough? I think the secularism is the most egregious. I’m secular myself, but I don’t think its morally right to try to take that away from other people, so long as their beliefs don’t hurt others.
It really does read as targeting a particular religous/cultural ethnic group
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I’ve got mixed feelings about this. On one hand I mostly like the idea of the Quebec social contract, the whole “democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism” bit.
But how would this be fairly enforced? What would make a person gender equality-y enough? Or pro-democratic enough? I think the secularism is the most egregious. I’m secular myself, but I don’t think its morally right to try to take that away from other people, so long as their beliefs don’t hurt others.
It really does read as targeting a particular religous/cultural ethnic group
Because it is. The CAQ have the same talking points the MAGA have, fear of woke, fear of hijab and little bit of separatism. They try to make people that only read Journal de Montréal angrier to sell them a bullshit solution
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Because it is. The CAQ have the same talking points the MAGA have, fear of woke, fear of hijab and little bit of separatism. They try to make people that only read Journal de Montréal angrier to sell them a bullshit solution
Stuff like that makes me a little worrisome about my ambitions to one day move to Quebec/Montreal. I despise fearmongering and blind hatred, but you find that everywhere nowadays.
To quote a bit of Gandalf, I hope to be a person who gifts many small acts of kindness and love to keep the darkness at bay. Wherever I find myself. It is one of my biggest motivators to work on my French, so I can connect better with more people of Canada. The jump in pay and jobs exclusive for bilingual folks helps too though!
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Quotes are from the article. This is not the full article. Original article written by Thomas Laberge of The Canadian Press on the 28th of May, 2025.
"He says the legislation will relegate Canadian multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history.’
‘Multiculturalism no longer applies on Quebec soil, finally! (…) It’s a model that has always been harmful to Quebec,’ Roberge declared Wednesday at the National Assembly.
According to him, under that model, the state takes it upon itself to allow newcomers to retain their culture and language of origin.
‘That’s Canadian multiculturalism. We live alongside one another,’ he explained.
His new law — inspired by interculturalism — aims to signal to immigrants that they are ‘arriving in a state with its own model of integration’ and that they must accept Quebec’s social contract, which is based on values such as democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism.’
‘Otherwise, well, it’s not a good idea to come here,’ Roberge said. "
Quebec immigration minister wants to relegate multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history’
Immigration Minister Jean-François Roberge wasted no time in boasting after the adoption of his new law that will give Quebec its own model for national integration.
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they used his sentence for the title to make it sound racist, but I really don’t see an issue with this law from reading the article
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Quotes are from the article. This is not the full article. Original article written by Thomas Laberge of The Canadian Press on the 28th of May, 2025.
"He says the legislation will relegate Canadian multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history.’
‘Multiculturalism no longer applies on Quebec soil, finally! (…) It’s a model that has always been harmful to Quebec,’ Roberge declared Wednesday at the National Assembly.
According to him, under that model, the state takes it upon itself to allow newcomers to retain their culture and language of origin.
‘That’s Canadian multiculturalism. We live alongside one another,’ he explained.
His new law — inspired by interculturalism — aims to signal to immigrants that they are ‘arriving in a state with its own model of integration’ and that they must accept Quebec’s social contract, which is based on values such as democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism.’
‘Otherwise, well, it’s not a good idea to come here,’ Roberge said. "
Quebec immigration minister wants to relegate multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history’
Immigration Minister Jean-François Roberge wasted no time in boasting after the adoption of his new law that will give Quebec its own model for national integration.
CTVNews (www.ctvnews.ca)
Suggesting that multiculturalism has always been harmful to Québéc is a bit rich when you consider that it was adopted as a policy largely as a reflection of the multicultural nature of the French culture within a majority-English Canada.
Québéc has its own language, history, food, and culture, sure, but they also have their own legal system and a massive political party that advocates for their own political and cultural interests.
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Because it is. The CAQ have the same talking points the MAGA have, fear of woke, fear of hijab and little bit of separatism. They try to make people that only read Journal de Montréal angrier to sell them a bullshit solution
I hate the CAQ but you’re giving a very bad description. They’re maybe conservatives but nowhere near MAGA. They’re not separatists either. They don’t fear woke although they’ve called the Quebec Solidaire members that often. They just don’t care about it.
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Stuff like that makes me a little worrisome about my ambitions to one day move to Quebec/Montreal. I despise fearmongering and blind hatred, but you find that everywhere nowadays.
To quote a bit of Gandalf, I hope to be a person who gifts many small acts of kindness and love to keep the darkness at bay. Wherever I find myself. It is one of my biggest motivators to work on my French, so I can connect better with more people of Canada. The jump in pay and jobs exclusive for bilingual folks helps too though!
Honestly the CAQ is the most unpopular provincial party out of all provinces right now. We’re making memes about how they’re going to lose the next elections. The second there’s a partial election they lose a candidate. They’re especially hated right now.
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Quotes are from the article. This is not the full article. Original article written by Thomas Laberge of The Canadian Press on the 28th of May, 2025.
"He says the legislation will relegate Canadian multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history.’
‘Multiculturalism no longer applies on Quebec soil, finally! (…) It’s a model that has always been harmful to Quebec,’ Roberge declared Wednesday at the National Assembly.
According to him, under that model, the state takes it upon itself to allow newcomers to retain their culture and language of origin.
‘That’s Canadian multiculturalism. We live alongside one another,’ he explained.
His new law — inspired by interculturalism — aims to signal to immigrants that they are ‘arriving in a state with its own model of integration’ and that they must accept Quebec’s social contract, which is based on values such as democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism.’
‘Otherwise, well, it’s not a good idea to come here,’ Roberge said. "
Quebec immigration minister wants to relegate multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history’
Immigration Minister Jean-François Roberge wasted no time in boasting after the adoption of his new law that will give Quebec its own model for national integration.
CTVNews (www.ctvnews.ca)
They’re not wrong though. Don’t establish yourself into a place that values freedom, equal rights, it’s own culture and separation of church and state if you don’t share those values and are going to complain about them all the time.
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Stuff like that makes me a little worrisome about my ambitions to one day move to Quebec/Montreal. I despise fearmongering and blind hatred, but you find that everywhere nowadays.
To quote a bit of Gandalf, I hope to be a person who gifts many small acts of kindness and love to keep the darkness at bay. Wherever I find myself. It is one of my biggest motivators to work on my French, so I can connect better with more people of Canada. The jump in pay and jobs exclusive for bilingual folks helps too though!
Turn out that Only Bilingual job are more enforce in Quebec that they are in the ROC. I have a friend that work in high places in the Canadian Government, when he start and lead a meeting with his pair he start in French as the law permit him, turns out that most of his pairs cannot speak/understand French in a job where it a condition for having the said job
However I encourage you to learn and try. Knowing one language more is always a plus and it permits you to be open to others and if you want help come to Lemmy/Quebec
Now the political landscape in Quebec is shit. It was shit in the 90s and probably before that, now we have one big nepo baby (Pierre Karl Peladeau, Québecor) that want to rule Quebec and for this he is using his editorialist (??? What’s the term in English, columnist ?) to work hate into the head of people (there’s a compelling argument that he is boosting the PQ right now and that’s the only reason that they will win the next election). Since we have asshole-y government at least we have some cool people in the street doing the good fight.
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I hate the CAQ but you’re giving a very bad description. They’re maybe conservatives but nowhere near MAGA. They’re not separatists either. They don’t fear woke although they’ve called the Quebec Solidaire members that often. They just don’t care about it.
François Legault est un ancien PQuiste, je pense que 60% des élues actuels sont d’anciens PQuistes ou qui ont déjà eu des relations de très proches avec le PQ.
Même si ils utilisent le terme woke pas mal moins que le PQ, ils gardent les mêmes arguments.
Ils font du low key MAGA at best, leur gestion de la question du 3éme lien démontre bien leur façon de diriger: les études nous contredisent? On va en commander une autre! Ça nous contredit encore ? On va payer une firme d’ingénieurs pour starter le projet pareil !
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They’re not wrong though. Don’t establish yourself into a place that values freedom, equal rights, it’s own culture and separation of church and state if you don’t share those values and are going to complain about them all the time.
Aren’t you stereotyping immigrants and Canadians?
Plenty of immigrants value those things, plenty of Canadians absolutely don’t.
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Quotes are from the article. This is not the full article. Original article written by Thomas Laberge of The Canadian Press on the 28th of May, 2025.
"He says the legislation will relegate Canadian multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history.’
‘Multiculturalism no longer applies on Quebec soil, finally! (…) It’s a model that has always been harmful to Quebec,’ Roberge declared Wednesday at the National Assembly.
According to him, under that model, the state takes it upon itself to allow newcomers to retain their culture and language of origin.
‘That’s Canadian multiculturalism. We live alongside one another,’ he explained.
His new law — inspired by interculturalism — aims to signal to immigrants that they are ‘arriving in a state with its own model of integration’ and that they must accept Quebec’s social contract, which is based on values such as democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism.’
‘Otherwise, well, it’s not a good idea to come here,’ Roberge said. "
Quebec immigration minister wants to relegate multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history’
Immigration Minister Jean-François Roberge wasted no time in boasting after the adoption of his new law that will give Quebec its own model for national integration.
CTVNews (www.ctvnews.ca)
There is no pressing pause on culture without authoritarian intervention, and even then you end up just turning your country into nothing more than a tourist attraction for wealthy foreigners.
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Aren’t you stereotyping immigrants and Canadians?
Plenty of immigrants value those things, plenty of Canadians absolutely don’t.
If some Canadians have a problem with that, they can move to Alberta
Seriously though, I’m not stereotyping anybody. You’re putting words into my mouth. (So to speak)
