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  • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

    Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

    Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

    Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

    If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

    The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

    Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

    (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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    nfultz@awful.systems
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    Emails Show Even Epstein Thought Crypto Pumps are Unethical | Gizmodo

    Crossover month for the epstein extended universe continues…

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    • L lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems

      $1000 a week?? Even putting aside literally all of the other issues of AI, it is quite damning that AI cannot even beat humans on cost. AI somehow manages to screw up the one undeniable advantage of software. How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they’re eating is good?

      As a sidenote, I think after the bubble collapses, the people who predict that there will still be some uses for genAI are mostly wrong. In large part, this is because they do not realize just how ruinously expensive it is to run these models, let alone scrape data and train them. Right now, these costs are being subsidized by venture capitalists putting their money into a furnace.

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      gerikson@awful.systems
      wrote on last edited by
      #39

      they’re already pivoting to the narrative that “local models will be plenty good enough and it will be trivially affordable to run them”

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      • L lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems

        $1000 a week?? Even putting aside literally all of the other issues of AI, it is quite damning that AI cannot even beat humans on cost. AI somehow manages to screw up the one undeniable advantage of software. How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they’re eating is good?

        As a sidenote, I think after the bubble collapses, the people who predict that there will still be some uses for genAI are mostly wrong. In large part, this is because they do not realize just how ruinously expensive it is to run these models, let alone scrape data and train them. Right now, these costs are being subsidized by venture capitalists putting their money into a furnace.

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        architeuthis@awful.systems
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        #40

        How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they’re eating is good?

        They think it’s just that they’re early, like they did with bitcoin. Maybe in six monthsthe dogshit will start to taste great, who’s to say, and so on and so forth.

        Also swengs in the USA often make absurdly more than 1K/week.

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        • architeuthis@awful.systemsA architeuthis@awful.systems

          How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they’re eating is good?

          They think it’s just that they’re early, like they did with bitcoin. Maybe in six monthsthe dogshit will start to taste great, who’s to say, and so on and so forth.

          Also swengs in the USA often make absurdly more than 1K/week.

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          lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems
          wrote on last edited by
          #41

          I guess I can check back in six months to see how they’re doing … wait a minute, they were saying the same things six months ago, weren’t they? That’s a bummer.

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          • architeuthis@awful.systemsA architeuthis@awful.systems

            How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they’re eating is good?

            They think it’s just that they’re early, like they did with bitcoin. Maybe in six monthsthe dogshit will start to taste great, who’s to say, and so on and so forth.

            Also swengs in the USA often make absurdly more than 1K/week.

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            o7___o7@awful.systems
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            #42

            Tired: it’s required to taste

            Wired: it’s an acquired taste

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            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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              bluemonday1984@awful.systems
              wrote on last edited by
              #43

              Quick PSA: Not by AI is made by AI bros to help their slop machines violate the commons more effieicntly

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              • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                they’re already pivoting to the narrative that “local models will be plenty good enough and it will be trivially affordable to run them”

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                v0ldek@awful.systems
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                #44

                and it will be trivially affordable to run them

                ON WHAT HARDWARE BEN, DDR2 SCAVENGED FROM JUNKYARDS???

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                • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                  Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                  Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                  Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                  If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                  The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                  Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                  (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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                  o7___o7@awful.systems
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #45

                  Re datacenters in space:

                  Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                  Link Preview Image
                  xAI Joins SpaceX | Hacker News

                  favicon

                  (news.ycombinator.com)

                  Edit: may have gotten the ol URL switcharoo:

                  Link Preview Image
                  xAI joins SpaceX | Hacker News

                  favicon

                  (news.ycombinator.com)

                  Current top comment is nice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862435😞

                  it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power

                  We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon.

                  edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial percentage of the Sun’s power. A few trillionths per year.

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                  • F froztbyte@awful.systems

                    once again, the facade of the “whoops, bad company” falls to the ground the moment she needs her hands to fill the pompoms instead of hold up the venetian mask

                    ::: spoiler transcript a quote tweet by @XiWellWisher, reads: “So what’s the deal with this ghastly woman again? She’s a sort of silicon valley Ghislaine Maxwell?”

                    the quoted tweet by aella reads: “There’s apparently a pro-billionaire protest in SF on the 7th. I might go to this to support! Anybody else going?” :::

                    also, real weird account name on that account, wonder if it’s a sock

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                    lurker@awful.systems
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                    “pro-billionaire” sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little. Also the billionaires are the ones rushing to create the thing so many rationalists claim is an existential risk, why the fuck would you support them??

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                    • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                      There are other posts of the same story that include the original “dev” learning his lesson by using a cheaper model instead of just using a clock.

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                      Don’t worry, he eventually figured out how to make it cost much less each time his computer asked the remote AI model what time it was

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                      Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

                      There’s also a hackernews which is interesting : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46854150

                      Stupid stuff openclaw did for me:

                      • Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must’ve done a bit more than that to get banned)
                      • Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by hammering the crap out of the docs api
                      • Used approx $2k worth of Kimi tokens (Thankfully temporarily free on opencode) in the space of approx 48hrs.

                      Unless you can budget $1k a week, this thing is next to useless. Once these free offers end on models a lot of people will stop using it, it’s obscene how many tokens it burns through, like monumentally stupid. A simple single request is over 250k chars every single time. That’s not sustainable.

                      I hadn’t realised quite how terrible the basic offering was. I guess every reinvented-cron-but-unaffordable project pushes the ai companies a little closer to bankruptcy, which is better than nothing, I guess.

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                      froztbyte@awful.systems
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                      thankfully temporarily free

                      god I can’t wait for the subsidies to end

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                      • L lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems

                        I guess I can check back in six months to see how they’re doing … wait a minute, they were saying the same things six months ago, weren’t they? That’s a bummer.

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                        shakingmyhead@awful.systems
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                        #48

                        Well, sure, but that was six months ago.

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                        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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                          gerikson@awful.systems
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                          #49

                          Protos: Brock Pierce’s dark and disturbing friendship with Jeffrey Epstein

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                          • o7___o7@awful.systemsO o7___o7@awful.systems

                            Re datacenters in space:

                            Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                            Link Preview Image
                            xAI Joins SpaceX | Hacker News

                            favicon

                            (news.ycombinator.com)

                            Edit: may have gotten the ol URL switcharoo:

                            Link Preview Image
                            xAI joins SpaceX | Hacker News

                            favicon

                            (news.ycombinator.com)

                            Current top comment is nice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862435😞

                            it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power

                            We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon.

                            edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial percentage of the Sun’s power. A few trillionths per year.

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                            v0ldek@awful.systems
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #50

                            SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                            Truly a conundrum worthy of the XXI century

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                            • o7___o7@awful.systemsO o7___o7@awful.systems

                              Re datacenters in space:

                              Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                              Link Preview Image
                              xAI Joins SpaceX | Hacker News

                              favicon

                              (news.ycombinator.com)

                              Edit: may have gotten the ol URL switcharoo:

                              Link Preview Image
                              xAI joins SpaceX | Hacker News

                              favicon

                              (news.ycombinator.com)

                              Current top comment is nice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862435😞

                              it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power

                              We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon.

                              edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial percentage of the Sun’s power. A few trillionths per year.

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                              gerikson@awful.systems
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                              #51

                              1,604 comments jfc

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                              • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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                                rook@awful.systems
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                                Bit early to celebrate, but every bit of grit in the wheels of the llm machine is welcome: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift

                                • recall might be rethought, again
                                • copilot integration in the most stupid places (notepad, paint, maybe others) “under review”
                                • no new copilot integration with other tools that ship with windows

                                Still plenty of other ai projects going full steam ahead, but promotion in plenty of tech companies and especially microsoft comes with being associated with a product launch, and if you’re smart what happens after the launch is someone else’s problem. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty of this stiff clinging on until it reaches consumers, and then being immediately “scaled back”.

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                                • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                                  they’re already pivoting to the narrative that “local models will be plenty good enough and it will be trivially affordable to run them”

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                                  fullsquare@awful.systems
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                                  i still think that lots of people damaged by chatbots will stop in their tracks when this vc money burning charade ends, they won’t be able to set up it all locally because chatbots brainrotted them even if it was possible in the first place

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                                  • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                                    Bit early to celebrate, but every bit of grit in the wheels of the llm machine is welcome: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift

                                    • recall might be rethought, again
                                    • copilot integration in the most stupid places (notepad, paint, maybe others) “under review”
                                    • no new copilot integration with other tools that ship with windows

                                    Still plenty of other ai projects going full steam ahead, but promotion in plenty of tech companies and especially microsoft comes with being associated with a product launch, and if you’re smart what happens after the launch is someone else’s problem. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty of this stiff clinging on until it reaches consumers, and then being immediately “scaled back”.

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                                    o7___o7@awful.systems
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #54

                                    R3call

                                    Buisness plan: daily reminders to Recall the Recall Recall. It’s memento mori for CEOs as a service.

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                                    • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                      Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                      Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                      Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                      If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                      The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                      Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                      (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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                                      bluemonday1984@awful.systems
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                                      #55

                                      Found another website doing a good job keeping eye on the slop machines and their promoters: The AI Dirty List.

                                      It also lists those who have fought against the bullshit fountains as well.

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                                      • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                        In other news, Larry Garfield of GarfieldTech has had enough of the bullshit fountains, and put out a fury-filled sneer in response.

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                                        corbin@awful.systems
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                                        #56

                                        Larry Garfield was ejected from Drupal nearly a decade ago without concrete accusations; at the time, I thought Dries was overreacting, likely because I was in technical disagreement with him, but now I’m more inclined to see Garfield as a misogynist who the community was correct to eject.

                                        I did have a longpost on Lobsters responding to this rant, but here I just want to focus on one thing: Garfield has no solutions. His conclusion is that we should resent people who push or accept AI, and also that we might as well use coding agents:

                                        As I learn how to work with AI coding agents, know that I will be thinking ill of [people who have already shrugged and said “it is what it is”] the entire time.

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                                        • N nfultz@awful.systems

                                          Don’t want to use AI because it’s built on copyright infringement and literally destroying the planet? Well, I guess you can’t work in software anymore, sorry. It is what it is.

                                          Every time someone like Jeffrey Way says “it is what it is,” it makes it so. It is not inevitable just because Sam Altman tells his over-leveraged investors it is so. It becomes inevitable when you, you personally, decide that you just don’t want to think about the externalities or put in the work to find better alternatives.

                                          We are making this choice. But really, that means you have already decided for me. And I curse you and the ground you walk on for it. No, I’m not joking or exaggerating. Burn in hell.

                                          10/10 No notes.

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                                          yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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                                          Between this shit and the oncoming tech-inflicted recession, my wife and I are both reskilling out of tech. I’m looking into electrician and she’s looking into accounting. Two fields that are, at least in theory, sufficiently motivated by accuracy and reality to be at least somewhat protected from the rise and fall of the confabulatron.

                                          We’ll see how it goes, but God if that “Burn in hell” doesn’t just hit me right in the soul.

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