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Vancouver social-media company Hootsuite looking to work with ICE to ‘build trust’

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  • nightowl@lemmy.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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    nightowl@lemmy.ca
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    Archive: [ https://archive.is/hOoeb ]

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    • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

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      panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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      oh honey no…

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      • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

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        LordMayor
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        Hootsuite’s chief executive officer is Irina Novoselsky

        I don’t suppose she might have Russian connections, hmmmm?

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        • L LordMayor

          Hootsuite’s chief executive officer is Irina Novoselsky

          I don’t suppose she might have Russian connections, hmmmm?

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          justOnePersistentKbinPlease
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          No, Hootsuite is just scummy all around.

          They’ve previously been caught making people take unpaid internships.

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          • L LordMayor

            Hootsuite’s chief executive officer is Irina Novoselsky

            I don’t suppose she might have Russian connections, hmmmm?

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            freebooter69@lemmy.ca
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            Ukrainian it looks like.

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            • L LordMayor

              Hootsuite’s chief executive officer is Irina Novoselsky

              I don’t suppose she might have Russian connections, hmmmm?

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              sbv@sh.itjust.works
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              She says she’s Ukrainian.

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              • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

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                floofloof@lemmy.ca
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                Traitors.

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                • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

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                  acargitz
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                  Doing evil shit should have a social cost. We need to be boycotting and generally making the life difficult for any canadian company profiteering from trumpist fascism.

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                  • L LordMayor

                    Hootsuite’s chief executive officer is Irina Novoselsky

                    I don’t suppose she might have Russian connections, hmmmm?

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                    Avid Amoeba
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                    #9

                    She is a capitalist following hers and her shareholders’ interests. Her country of birth is immaterial in this decision. She’d tend to do the same if she was born in Canada, Denmark or Zimbabwe. As have numerous other business leaders in Canada. Their primary interest is getting return on their capital. If you look at it this way, her actions look completely rational.

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                    • freebooter69@lemmy.caF freebooter69@lemmy.ca

                      Ukrainian it looks like.

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                      humanoftheinternet@lemmy.world
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                      But that doesn’t fit the narrative though!

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                        snoons@lemmy.ca
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                        “ICE is using social listening not to amplify one political aisle, but to better understand how they’re perceived; especially by audiences who may distrust them. They want to listen, build trust, and communicate more effectively as an agency that serves all Americans,”

                        LOL “distrust” is way too mild. More like abhor, hate, loathe… any acronym for hate would do.

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                        • S snoons@lemmy.ca

                          “ICE is using social listening not to amplify one political aisle, but to better understand how they’re perceived; especially by audiences who may distrust them. They want to listen, build trust, and communicate more effectively as an agency that serves all Americans,”

                          LOL “distrust” is way too mild. More like abhor, hate, loathe… any acronym for hate would do.

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                          whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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                          You ever read a lie so brazen that you know for a fact the person that wrote it knew it sounded absurd and ran with it anyway?

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                          • S snoons@lemmy.ca

                            “ICE is using social listening not to amplify one political aisle, but to better understand how they’re perceived; especially by audiences who may distrust them. They want to listen, build trust, and communicate more effectively as an agency that serves all Americans,”

                            LOL “distrust” is way too mild. More like abhor, hate, loathe… any acronym for hate would do.

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                            Phoenixz
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                            But yeah, they just want propaganda

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                            • freebooter69@lemmy.caF freebooter69@lemmy.ca

                              Ukrainian it looks like.

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                              Cherry
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                              Should no better but greedy traitors come on all colours and nationality. Promoting ICE is about as shameful as it gets.

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                              • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                                She is a capitalist following hers and her shareholders’ interests. Her country of birth is immaterial in this decision. She’d tend to do the same if she was born in Canada, Denmark or Zimbabwe. As have numerous other business leaders in Canada. Their primary interest is getting return on their capital. If you look at it this way, her actions look completely rational.

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                                Cherry
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                                Looks like they turned down a contact with ICE a few years ago under a different CEO but Irina Novoselsky accepted one last year and is now chasing more. Looks like the first was for 95k. Really who sells their soul and jeopardises the companies integrity for that. Tells you a lot.

                                I feel for the staff but it looks like the sales team was chasing this. I hope the measly sales bonus helps them sleep better.

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                                  You ever read a lie so brazen that you know for a fact the person that wrote it knew it sounded absurd and ran with it anyway?

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                                  msage@programming.dev
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                                  Fascists do not only lie tactically, to “con” enemies or the masses. According to Finchelstein, fascists also lie as a matter of epistemological principle, since they view the truth as something created and enforced by violence, not as something to be discovered. Paradoxically, then, fascists’ lying has an element of honesty: a sincere and genuine rejection of the idea that their beliefs could ever be rationally proven or disproven, since they believe their beliefs are simply intuitively known to the select few destined for power, or conveyed by the leader or movement to the followers. However, as Finchelstein points out, and as Kahn-Harris’s and Leeb’s work help illuminate, fascists also lie for disingenuous, psychological reasons—that is, fascists lie as a mechanism of denial, to protect their consciences from awareness of what they are doing and to hide from “unspeakable truths” about themselves.

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                                  • M msage@programming.dev

                                    Fascists do not only lie tactically, to “con” enemies or the masses. According to Finchelstein, fascists also lie as a matter of epistemological principle, since they view the truth as something created and enforced by violence, not as something to be discovered. Paradoxically, then, fascists’ lying has an element of honesty: a sincere and genuine rejection of the idea that their beliefs could ever be rationally proven or disproven, since they believe their beliefs are simply intuitively known to the select few destined for power, or conveyed by the leader or movement to the followers. However, as Finchelstein points out, and as Kahn-Harris’s and Leeb’s work help illuminate, fascists also lie for disingenuous, psychological reasons—that is, fascists lie as a mechanism of denial, to protect their consciences from awareness of what they are doing and to hide from “unspeakable truths” about themselves.

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                                    juspie
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                                    Very insightful! Thank you for this comment msage@programming.dev

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                                    • C Cherry

                                      Looks like they turned down a contact with ICE a few years ago under a different CEO but Irina Novoselsky accepted one last year and is now chasing more. Looks like the first was for 95k. Really who sells their soul and jeopardises the companies integrity for that. Tells you a lot.

                                      I feel for the staff but it looks like the sales team was chasing this. I hope the measly sales bonus helps them sleep better.

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                                      Avid Amoeba
                                      wrote on last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
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                                      That’s how it works. A CEO of a comany that they’re not the controlling shareholder works for the major shareholders. Most major shareholders’ primary goal is to continually increase the return on their investment. If the CEO doesn’t do that, or another candidate convinces the shareholders she can do more, the CEO is replaced. It doesn’t happen quarterly, it doesn’t happen in every company, but it not happening is more of an exception than the rule. It’s what CEOs are graded on. A recent obvious example of a bunch of those selling their souls is Big Tech going full support for Trump.

                                      E: Been in large Canadian and American corporations for 15 years now. This is the best model I’ve seen that explains what I’ve seen inside. There are all sorts of exceptions and differences in degree but on the whole, it still has the best explanatory and predictive power according to my observations. YMMV

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                                        harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        More like Jackbootsuite.

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                                          eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca
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                                          I don’t see a way to contact Hootsuite on their website to complain.

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