Premier Doug Ford's government is ordering Ontario public servants to work from the office four days a week starting this fall and then full-time in January
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I had the advantage of working out of an office for years while doing remote training/mentoring. What I found was that different techniques were required online, but one wasn’t “better” than the other, just different.
Of course, different people thrive in the different environments too; there were some people who needed the in-person interaction and eventually moved on or were let go. And there were others who wouldn’t have lasted in an in-person environment who are now top performers working remotely.
IMO It’s like any teaching theory, everyone learns differently, so when you teach kids letters you say the letter(or sound), you see an image of it, you have them trace the image in the air with there arm. Those all reinforce parts of memory, or if somebody has a processing issue with any, they rely on the others. In person you can present and walk the room, interact and see reactions, gauge interest by who is sleeping, etc. Change tone to suit the room mood. All the subtlety that online doesn’t give you.
Again, I’m not against WFH, I have been doing it for 15 years, even training people 1 on 1 or in groups. Its adequate, but not ideal.
There are other benefits though, doing remote training with the trainees also all separately remote, means if one person has to leave for a washroom break they just silently disappear and aren’t disturbing a live classroom. They haven’t gotten up early and battled 1.5 hours of traffic to get to training, so they start fresh. Etc
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Dude was getting lonely not being able to micromanage the lives of government employees.
Text of the article at the time of posting:
Ontario ordering public servants back into office full time
Current mandate of 3 days a week has been provincial government policy since April 2022
Mike Crawley · CBC News · Posted: Aug 14, 2025 7:17 AM PDT | Last Updated: 1 hour ago
Premier Doug Ford’s government is ordering Ontario public servants to work from the office four days a week starting this fall and then full-time in January.
It’s a change from a policy that has been in place since April 2022, when provincial government employees were mandated to be in their offices at least three days per week.
Employees of the Ontario Public Service, provincial agencies, boards and commissions must “increase their attendance to four days per week” starting Oct. 20 and transition to full-time hours in-office effective Jan. 5, 2026, said Treasury Board President Caroline Mulroney in an announcement Thursday.
Ford says he believes government employees are more productive when they are in the office.
“How do you mentor someone over a phone? You can’t. You’ve got to look at them eye to eye,” Ford said during an unrelated news conference Thursday in Pickering.
Ford also suggested having provincial workers return to the office is better for the economy, pointing out that many small businesses that rely on foot traffic from office workers have suffered due to remote work policies.
“There’s hard-working entrepreneurs that their business has basically just died when they weren’t seeing the flow of traffic.”
The news follows on the heels of announcements by four of Canada’s big banks — RBC, Scotiabank, BMO and TD — that staff at their Toronto headquarters must spend at least four days a week in the office, effective this fall.
‘Everyone needs to go back to work,’ says Ford
Ford said his government wasn’t influenced by the bank mandates, but said business leaders he’d spoken with agree “everyone needs to go back to work.”
“We look forward to having everyone back; we’re very grateful for the work they do. We have the best public service in Canada and I appreciate the work they do every day,” he said.
Ontario’s top bureaucrat, Secretary of Cabinet Michelle DiEmanuele, said in a memo obtained by CBC News that the decision “is in line with an increasing number of organizations across the public and private sectors.”
The province’s move comes just two weeks after it reached a new collective agreement with AMAPCEO, which represents some 14,000 professional, administrative and supervisory employees in the Ontario Public Service.
The province was “hellbent on removing” employees’ options for remote work during those negotiations, says AMAPCEO president Dave Bulmer.
“I am incensed by this morning’s announcement,” said Bulmer in a message to union members. “We have shown that we can, and should, be treated as the capable, trustworthy professionals we are — professionals capable of working for Ontario from anywhere.”
Bulmer says there should be no changes for provincial employees who have a formal, signed agreement allowing them to work remotely, and says AMAPCEO members who want to work remotely should make an official request now.
Officials from OPSEU, the union that represents roughly half of the Ontario Public Service workforce, said they will issue a statement in response to the changes later on Thursday.
The provincial government’s single-largest office space in Toronto, the Macdonald Block complex, is undergoing a $1.5 billion renovation and has been shut down for six years.
Staff of several provincial ministries have since been working from rented office space scattered around the city’s downtown.
Federal government employees are currently subject to a three-days-per-week minimum in the workplace, imposed last September. There’s been some evidence since that the policy is not being strictly enforced.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Senior reporter
Mike Crawley has covered Ontario politics for CBC News since 2009. He began his career as a newspaper reporter in B.C., spent six years as a freelance journalist in various parts of Africa, then joined the CBC in 2005. Mike was born and raised in Saint John, N.B.
With files from Sarah Petz
I like Ford however, for the young families working from home, it must have been a bonus and not taking your kids to child care. But that’s my point, he should have had more licensed child care facilities in place FIRST before demanding back to the office ruling. Now, what do they do when there is a waiting list as long as your arm?
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Dude was getting lonely not being able to micromanage the lives of government employees.
Text of the article at the time of posting:
Ontario ordering public servants back into office full time
Current mandate of 3 days a week has been provincial government policy since April 2022
Mike Crawley · CBC News · Posted: Aug 14, 2025 7:17 AM PDT | Last Updated: 1 hour ago
Premier Doug Ford’s government is ordering Ontario public servants to work from the office four days a week starting this fall and then full-time in January.
It’s a change from a policy that has been in place since April 2022, when provincial government employees were mandated to be in their offices at least three days per week.
Employees of the Ontario Public Service, provincial agencies, boards and commissions must “increase their attendance to four days per week” starting Oct. 20 and transition to full-time hours in-office effective Jan. 5, 2026, said Treasury Board President Caroline Mulroney in an announcement Thursday.
Ford says he believes government employees are more productive when they are in the office.
“How do you mentor someone over a phone? You can’t. You’ve got to look at them eye to eye,” Ford said during an unrelated news conference Thursday in Pickering.
Ford also suggested having provincial workers return to the office is better for the economy, pointing out that many small businesses that rely on foot traffic from office workers have suffered due to remote work policies.
“There’s hard-working entrepreneurs that their business has basically just died when they weren’t seeing the flow of traffic.”
The news follows on the heels of announcements by four of Canada’s big banks — RBC, Scotiabank, BMO and TD — that staff at their Toronto headquarters must spend at least four days a week in the office, effective this fall.
‘Everyone needs to go back to work,’ says Ford
Ford said his government wasn’t influenced by the bank mandates, but said business leaders he’d spoken with agree “everyone needs to go back to work.”
“We look forward to having everyone back; we’re very grateful for the work they do. We have the best public service in Canada and I appreciate the work they do every day,” he said.
Ontario’s top bureaucrat, Secretary of Cabinet Michelle DiEmanuele, said in a memo obtained by CBC News that the decision “is in line with an increasing number of organizations across the public and private sectors.”
The province’s move comes just two weeks after it reached a new collective agreement with AMAPCEO, which represents some 14,000 professional, administrative and supervisory employees in the Ontario Public Service.
The province was “hellbent on removing” employees’ options for remote work during those negotiations, says AMAPCEO president Dave Bulmer.
“I am incensed by this morning’s announcement,” said Bulmer in a message to union members. “We have shown that we can, and should, be treated as the capable, trustworthy professionals we are — professionals capable of working for Ontario from anywhere.”
Bulmer says there should be no changes for provincial employees who have a formal, signed agreement allowing them to work remotely, and says AMAPCEO members who want to work remotely should make an official request now.
Officials from OPSEU, the union that represents roughly half of the Ontario Public Service workforce, said they will issue a statement in response to the changes later on Thursday.
The provincial government’s single-largest office space in Toronto, the Macdonald Block complex, is undergoing a $1.5 billion renovation and has been shut down for six years.
Staff of several provincial ministries have since been working from rented office space scattered around the city’s downtown.
Federal government employees are currently subject to a three-days-per-week minimum in the workplace, imposed last September. There’s been some evidence since that the policy is not being strictly enforced.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Senior reporter
Mike Crawley has covered Ontario politics for CBC News since 2009. He began his career as a newspaper reporter in B.C., spent six years as a freelance journalist in various parts of Africa, then joined the CBC in 2005. Mike was born and raised in Saint John, N.B.
With files from Sarah Petz
What the fuck is this shit? Doug Ford and the “business leaders he’s spoken with” need to go fuck themselves. Do we need another pandemic just to sort this shit out?
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“How do you mentor someone over a phone? You can’t.” Ford said
We have literal suicide prevention phone service that does this, Doug.
This quote is the most out of touch boomer shit
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Or just leave your house when work time starts and leave work early to account for traveling home.
Dont tell anyone but thats what ive done for years, granted its only a 10 to 15 min commute.
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I hope they resign en-masse.
This might be the intent. Cuts by ‘attrition’. The new ‘starve the beast’
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What the fuck is this shit? Doug Ford and the “business leaders he’s spoken with” need to go fuck themselves. Do we need another pandemic just to sort this shit out?
Feudal lords need to see their peasants toiling in the fields, otherwise they feel sad.
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Feudal lords need to see their peasants toiling in the fields, otherwise they feel sad.
Ain’t no fields left when you pave the greenbelt and put up another toll highway
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Dude was getting lonely not being able to micromanage the lives of government employees.
Text of the article at the time of posting:
Ontario ordering public servants back into office full time
Current mandate of 3 days a week has been provincial government policy since April 2022
Mike Crawley · CBC News · Posted: Aug 14, 2025 7:17 AM PDT | Last Updated: 1 hour ago
Premier Doug Ford’s government is ordering Ontario public servants to work from the office four days a week starting this fall and then full-time in January.
It’s a change from a policy that has been in place since April 2022, when provincial government employees were mandated to be in their offices at least three days per week.
Employees of the Ontario Public Service, provincial agencies, boards and commissions must “increase their attendance to four days per week” starting Oct. 20 and transition to full-time hours in-office effective Jan. 5, 2026, said Treasury Board President Caroline Mulroney in an announcement Thursday.
Ford says he believes government employees are more productive when they are in the office.
“How do you mentor someone over a phone? You can’t. You’ve got to look at them eye to eye,” Ford said during an unrelated news conference Thursday in Pickering.
Ford also suggested having provincial workers return to the office is better for the economy, pointing out that many small businesses that rely on foot traffic from office workers have suffered due to remote work policies.
“There’s hard-working entrepreneurs that their business has basically just died when they weren’t seeing the flow of traffic.”
The news follows on the heels of announcements by four of Canada’s big banks — RBC, Scotiabank, BMO and TD — that staff at their Toronto headquarters must spend at least four days a week in the office, effective this fall.
‘Everyone needs to go back to work,’ says Ford
Ford said his government wasn’t influenced by the bank mandates, but said business leaders he’d spoken with agree “everyone needs to go back to work.”
“We look forward to having everyone back; we’re very grateful for the work they do. We have the best public service in Canada and I appreciate the work they do every day,” he said.
Ontario’s top bureaucrat, Secretary of Cabinet Michelle DiEmanuele, said in a memo obtained by CBC News that the decision “is in line with an increasing number of organizations across the public and private sectors.”
The province’s move comes just two weeks after it reached a new collective agreement with AMAPCEO, which represents some 14,000 professional, administrative and supervisory employees in the Ontario Public Service.
The province was “hellbent on removing” employees’ options for remote work during those negotiations, says AMAPCEO president Dave Bulmer.
“I am incensed by this morning’s announcement,” said Bulmer in a message to union members. “We have shown that we can, and should, be treated as the capable, trustworthy professionals we are — professionals capable of working for Ontario from anywhere.”
Bulmer says there should be no changes for provincial employees who have a formal, signed agreement allowing them to work remotely, and says AMAPCEO members who want to work remotely should make an official request now.
Officials from OPSEU, the union that represents roughly half of the Ontario Public Service workforce, said they will issue a statement in response to the changes later on Thursday.
The provincial government’s single-largest office space in Toronto, the Macdonald Block complex, is undergoing a $1.5 billion renovation and has been shut down for six years.
Staff of several provincial ministries have since been working from rented office space scattered around the city’s downtown.
Federal government employees are currently subject to a three-days-per-week minimum in the workplace, imposed last September. There’s been some evidence since that the policy is not being strictly enforced.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Senior reporter
Mike Crawley has covered Ontario politics for CBC News since 2009. He began his career as a newspaper reporter in B.C., spent six years as a freelance journalist in various parts of Africa, then joined the CBC in 2005. Mike was born and raised in Saint John, N.B.
With files from Sarah Petz
They want people to quit.
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I like Ford however, for the young families working from home, it must have been a bonus and not taking your kids to child care. But that’s my point, he should have had more licensed child care facilities in place FIRST before demanding back to the office ruling. Now, what do they do when there is a waiting list as long as your arm?
Genuinely curious, what do you like about Ford?
