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I am a Millionaire. Tax Me More, Please.

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    imrighthere@lemmy.ca
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    There is nothing stopping your millionaire ass from donating that money to the government. Always good to pretend you’re being prevented from doing that though.

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      arkouda@lemmy.ca
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      How about instead of begging to be taxed you invest that money into a project needed to help Canadians who aren’t well off.

      Build housing with your money.

      Build infrastructure with your money.

      Help others fund Green alternatives with your money.

      Donate to the thousands of charities who will do this all for you if you are lazy.

      But stop bitching like you do not have the option to spend that money well on your own for the benefit of others. Especially when the rhetoric is “Government bad” at all times making it really hard to push for a tax increase on anyone.

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        IninewCrow
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        Millionaires with a few million dollars aren’t the problem

        The biggest problems are the handful of billionaires and the billionaires that are not Canadian but have a strangle hold on companies or corporations that affect Canada.

        If the government could just tax the ever loving shit out of billionaires, they’d remove the single root cause of a lot of problems in the country and actually allow some sort of competition in all industries. This would allow the economy to spread the wealth to more Canadians than to a bunch of non-aligned billionaires who could care less what country they are attached to because their wealth is so great, they are basically their own country at this point.

        Millionaires aren’t the problem … Billionaires are

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        • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)

          But Mark Clowney doesn’t want to.

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          arkouda@lemmy.ca
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          For a “Progressive”, you sure do like to use Conservative talking points and nicknames a lot.

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          • IninewCrowI IninewCrow

            Millionaires with a few million dollars aren’t the problem

            The biggest problems are the handful of billionaires and the billionaires that are not Canadian but have a strangle hold on companies or corporations that affect Canada.

            If the government could just tax the ever loving shit out of billionaires, they’d remove the single root cause of a lot of problems in the country and actually allow some sort of competition in all industries. This would allow the economy to spread the wealth to more Canadians than to a bunch of non-aligned billionaires who could care less what country they are attached to because their wealth is so great, they are basically their own country at this point.

            Millionaires aren’t the problem … Billionaires are

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            arkouda@lemmy.ca
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            Anyone with either millions or billions is the problem because no single person needs either.

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            • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

              How about instead of begging to be taxed you invest that money into a project needed to help Canadians who aren’t well off.

              Build housing with your money.

              Build infrastructure with your money.

              Help others fund Green alternatives with your money.

              Donate to the thousands of charities who will do this all for you if you are lazy.

              But stop bitching like you do not have the option to spend that money well on your own for the benefit of others. Especially when the rhetoric is “Government bad” at all times making it really hard to push for a tax increase on anyone.

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              trakata
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              The problem with this is creates a bunch of micro-musks, who can get high ideals for shifting society into their warped perceptions by sniffing their own virtuous farts.

              The system we have certainly isn’t fair or efficient, but it’s better than feudalism dressed up as altruistic capitalism.

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              • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                For a “Progressive”, you sure do like to use Conservative talking points and nicknames a lot.

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                grte@lemmy.ca
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                Carney is running to the Conservatives for support more than he is the NDP. There’s a lot to criticize him for from the left. Whereas the right has got three tax cuts and a promise to hugely increase the military budget in just a few months of this government.

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                • IninewCrowI IninewCrow

                  Millionaires with a few million dollars aren’t the problem

                  The biggest problems are the handful of billionaires and the billionaires that are not Canadian but have a strangle hold on companies or corporations that affect Canada.

                  If the government could just tax the ever loving shit out of billionaires, they’d remove the single root cause of a lot of problems in the country and actually allow some sort of competition in all industries. This would allow the economy to spread the wealth to more Canadians than to a bunch of non-aligned billionaires who could care less what country they are attached to because their wealth is so great, they are basically their own country at this point.

                  Millionaires aren’t the problem … Billionaires are

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                  bestbouclettes@jlai.lu
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                  They’re part of the problem, but you can become a millionaire ethically, not a billionaire.

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                  • G grte@lemmy.ca

                    Carney is running to the Conservatives for support more than he is the NDP. There’s a lot to criticize him for from the left. Whereas the right has got three tax cuts and a promise to hugely increase the military budget in just a few months of this government.

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                    arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                    We need to increase the military budget. That isn’t Conservative, it is a reality.

                    What tax cuts are you referring to? I have only heard of the tax cut for middle class, and that was supported by the NDP from what I know.

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                    • T trakata

                      The problem with this is creates a bunch of micro-musks, who can get high ideals for shifting society into their warped perceptions by sniffing their own virtuous farts.

                      The system we have certainly isn’t fair or efficient, but it’s better than feudalism dressed up as altruistic capitalism.

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                      arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                      No it doesn’t. It creates caring people working to benefit their communities with the excess they have been blessed with. Do good for good sake.

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                      • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                        Anyone with either millions or billions is the problem because no single person needs either.

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                        NoneOfUrBusiness
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                        Uh… You do need millions to retire.

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                        • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                          No it doesn’t. It creates caring people working to benefit their communities with the excess they have been blessed with. Do good for good sake.

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                          felbane@lemmy.world
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                          The kind of person who is capable and willing to accumulate billions of dollars is generally not the kind of person who will do good for good’s sake.

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                          • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                            We need to increase the military budget. That isn’t Conservative, it is a reality.

                            What tax cuts are you referring to? I have only heard of the tax cut for middle class, and that was supported by the NDP from what I know.

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                            grte@lemmy.ca
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                            We don’t need to increase the military budget to 5% of GDP, a greater share than the US currently spends on it’s military by 1.6%. That’s insane and will certainly mean cuts to services like health care.

                            Taxes cut under this government:

                            1. Consumer carbon tax

                            2. Capital gains tax increase

                            3. Digital Services Tax

                            Carney cuts taxes like he won as leader of the CPC.

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                            • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                              How about instead of begging to be taxed you invest that money into a project needed to help Canadians who aren’t well off.

                              Build housing with your money.

                              Build infrastructure with your money.

                              Help others fund Green alternatives with your money.

                              Donate to the thousands of charities who will do this all for you if you are lazy.

                              But stop bitching like you do not have the option to spend that money well on your own for the benefit of others. Especially when the rhetoric is “Government bad” at all times making it really hard to push for a tax increase on anyone.

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                              NoneOfUrBusiness
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                              Uh… Given their values it is very likely they do donate to charities, but how far do you think a million can go in the modern day? You say “build housing,” but a million dollars are like, a house? Two houses? Until you reach the hundreds of millions level of obscene wealth, you need numbers before you can get anything done, so pushing for higher taxation is one of the most productive things this person can do with their time and money.

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                              • G grte@lemmy.ca

                                We don’t need to increase the military budget to 5% of GDP, a greater share than the US currently spends on it’s military by 1.6%. That’s insane and will certainly mean cuts to services like health care.

                                Taxes cut under this government:

                                1. Consumer carbon tax

                                2. Capital gains tax increase

                                3. Digital Services Tax

                                Carney cuts taxes like he won as leader of the CPC.

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                                hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                Do you know how much of that military spending will go to fixing problems that are decades old?

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                                  Do you know how much of that military spending will go to fixing problems that are decades old?

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                                  grte@lemmy.ca
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                                  That doesn’t justify spending more as a percentage of our GDP on the military than the USA who spends more than the next 10 or something states combined. I’m not giving up nationalized health care because Donald fucking Trump wants to shake down NATO and make Canada spend 30% of it’s national budget on American arms.

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                                  • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                                    For a “Progressive”, you sure do like to use Conservative talking points and nicknames a lot.

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                                    NoneOfUrBusiness
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                                    You can criticize one big group without being part of the other big group.

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                                      Uh… You do need millions to retire.

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                                      skankhunt42@lemmy.ca
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                                      😮‍💨 doing the math to figure this out is depressing.

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                                      • G grte@lemmy.ca

                                        That doesn’t justify spending more as a percentage of our GDP on the military than the USA who spends more than the next 10 or something states combined. I’m not giving up nationalized health care because Donald fucking Trump wants to shake down NATO and make Canada spend 30% of it’s national budget on American arms.

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                                        hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                        Cool.

                                        With that rant you have shown tou don’t understand how badly our military has been neglected.

                                        Your mindset only works if the US is actually friendly.

                                        And, we have been shopping elsewhere for new military equipment.

                                        Keep up.

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                                        • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                                          Cool.

                                          With that rant you have shown tou don’t understand how badly our military has been neglected.

                                          Your mindset only works if the US is actually friendly.

                                          And, we have been shopping elsewhere for new military equipment.

                                          Keep up.

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                                          grte@lemmy.ca
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                                          30% of the budget. Certainly the end of nationalized health care. That’s worth it to you?

                                          And if you think the US won’t engage in the sorts of tactics it currently is engaging in to demand we spend more of our military budget on them then you are mistaken.

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