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  • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

    I would agree with Mona about her assessment regarding Canada being closer to recognizing Palestine officially as a state, much like many other countries currently who do not officially do so while still backing the Two state solution.

    This was supposed to be brought up in the UN Conference hosted by France and Saudi Arabia, which has been postponed due to the fighting that broke out between Israel and Iran, so hopefully we can get that back on track as soon as possible as official recognition by the UN would put Israel into a worse position than they already find themselves in, and allow Palestine to finally have a seat at the table like they deserve.

    From there, hopefully we can see a swifter resolution because Peace before recognition of statehood is simply not very likely to ever happen.

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    Maeve
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    Fighting didn’t break out between Israel and Iran. Israel attacked Iran as a proxy for the USA.

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      Fighting didn’t break out between Israel and Iran. Israel attacked Iran as a proxy for the USA.

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      arkouda@lemmy.ca
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      Up until Israel attacked Iran directly Israel had been fighting Iranian proxies, and repelling Iranian rockets.

      It is quite obvious that Israel and the US coordinated the attacks against Iran, but they are long standing enemies, and “fighting broke out between Israel and Iran” is objectively accurate because they are not officially at war.

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      • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

        The Palestinian ambassador to Canada says she feels Ottawa is on the brink of officially recognizing statehood for her people, as she also takes note of tougher language from Canada on Israel’s actions in Gaza.

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        faxed@lemmy.ca
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        #19

        We need to join Algeria, Bahrain, Indonesia, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Morocco, Somalia, Tunisia, Turkey, Yemen, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Cuba, Jordan, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Serbia, Zambia, Albania, Brunei, Djibouti, Mauritius, Sudan, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Egypt, The Gambia, India, Nigeria, Seychelles, Sri Lanka, Namibia, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Vietnam, China, Burkina Faso, Comoros, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Cambodia, Mali, Mongolia, Senegal, Hungary, Cape Verde, North Korea, Niger, Romania, Tanzania, Bulgaria, Maldives, Ghana, Togo, Zimbabwe, Chad, Laos, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Republic of the Congo, Angola, Mozambique, São Tomé and Príncipe, Gabon, Oman, Poland, Botswana, Ethiopia, Iran, Benin, Kenya, Equatorial Guinea, Vanuatu, Philippines, Eswatini, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Papua New Guinea, South Africa, Kyrgyzstan, Malawi, Timor-Leste, Paraguay, Montenegro, Costa Rica, Lebanon, Ivory Coast, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile, Guyana, Peru, Uruguay, Lesotho, South Sudan, Syria, El Salvador, Honduras, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize, Dominica, Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, Iceland, Thailand, Haiti, Sweden, Saint Lucia, Colombia, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Ireland, Norway, Spain, Slovenia, Armenia, Mexico, Madagascar, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Nepal, Burundi, Central African Republic, Bhutan, Rwanda, Suriname, Liberia, Guatemala, Jamaica, The Bahamas, Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, Vatican City

        As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members.

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        A plurality stands with the people of Palestine. 🍉

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        • C corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca

          And agree on the borders.

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          faxed@lemmy.ca
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          What’s the disagreement?

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          • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

            The Palestinian ambassador to Canada says she feels Ottawa is on the brink of officially recognizing statehood for her people, as she also takes note of tougher language from Canada on Israel’s actions in Gaza.

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            Rentlar
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            At this point, it should be clear that mirroring the US’s stance won’t get Canada any benefits anymore. So we should just drop the appeasement and speak for world order instead of for genocide.

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            • W wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works

              Yes but also not really. The two state solution is a band aid at best, and a stalling tactic at worst. Without a full return to at the very least pre 1967 borders, there’s no way this is going to be any sort of morally justifiable. You truly think Israel is gonna get those settlers out? Ain’t gonna happen. Let alone the right of return of Palestinian refugees or reparations.

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              Avid Amoeba
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              Probably not.

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              • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                Being officially recognized as a state would grant Palestine numerous protections and rights that it currently does not have as an Observer state in the UN.

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                Avid Amoeba
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                I was thinking along the same lines but then I thought about other neighbouring countries like Lebanon. Being recognized states didn’t stop Israel from doing whay they did to them. Not saying there’s no difference, I’m just not sure what the practical difference is. I’m probably ignorant.

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                • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                  The Palestinian ambassador to Canada says she feels Ottawa is on the brink of officially recognizing statehood for her people, as she also takes note of tougher language from Canada on Israel’s actions in Gaza.

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                  sirmaple__@lemmy.ca
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                  About damn time. Personally I’d like to see the UN plan from 1947 put into place, but I doubt that will ever happen. Also the UN Security Council must not have control over Jerusalem. Period. Full stop. Needs to be the General Assembly or another body.

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                  • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                    The Palestinian ambassador to Canada says she feels Ottawa is on the brink of officially recognizing statehood for her people, as she also takes note of tougher language from Canada on Israel’s actions in Gaza.

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                    garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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                    This would be great if they did it. However, Canada is still providing weapons or vital weapons parts that are being funneled to Israel through US trade. We are still providing weapons to Israel and just taking their word for it that they aren’t being used for murder. Words mean nothing if we continue to provide the means for genocide.

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                    • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

                      This would be great if they did it. However, Canada is still providing weapons or vital weapons parts that are being funneled to Israel through US trade. We are still providing weapons to Israel and just taking their word for it that they aren’t being used for murder. Words mean nothing if we continue to provide the means for genocide.

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                      teppa
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                      Is as Europe and the US, despite their supposed protestations.

                      But Israel are close to Christianity, so they are the good guys, as per human logic for thousands of years.

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