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Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

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  • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

    Under Mark Carney’s Liberal government, the CMHC has quietly redefined ‘housing affordability’ to no longer mean 30% of income, but “perhaps 40-45% … [and] over 50% of income by 2035”.

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    Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

    In a move that received little public fanfare but will have implications for housing policy across Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has officially abandoned its 2004 benchmark for housing affordability. In its place? The "more re

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    The Real Estate Institute of Canada (www.reic.ca)

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    Sunshine (she/her)
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    Mark Carney is awful.

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    • streetfestival@lemmy.caS streetfestival@lemmy.ca

      Wow, this is big. I mean, I didn’t think things were going to get any more affordable, but this deepens my belief in that prediction quite a bit. “Over 50% by 2035” sounds like a fiefdom, because people got a lot more bills than rent/housing - or at least that’s my oldthink perspective lol. It’s also sobering that this report was published in June and failed, insofar as I know, to make any splash in any Canadian mainstream news. I’m grateful for the Fediverse

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      teppa
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      What you dont understand about the plan to financially repress the youth by ballooning home values via mass immigration is that Brookfield has a large residential real estate portfolio, which will fall in value if home prices fall.

      I hope this helps.

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      • streetfestival@lemmy.caS streetfestival@lemmy.ca

        Wow, this is big. I mean, I didn’t think things were going to get any more affordable, but this deepens my belief in that prediction quite a bit. “Over 50% by 2035” sounds like a fiefdom, because people got a lot more bills than rent/housing - or at least that’s my oldthink perspective lol. It’s also sobering that this report was published in June and failed, insofar as I know, to make any splash in any Canadian mainstream news. I’m grateful for the Fediverse

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        patatas@sh.itjust.works
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        #10

        Honestly I only went and looked for the report because of a post on Bluesky by Peter Julian.

        That said, this post seems to have already gotten more reach than a sitting former MP’s did on that platform, so you’re right about the fediverse!

        Regardless, I agree it should be much bigger news.

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        • T teppa

          The new boss is the same as the old boss, but what would you expect when you vote for the monopoly man who built his empire selling greenwashing funds that mainly hold large US tech stocks.

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          Nik282000
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          So, you think Poilievre was the right choice then? The guy who consistently voted against affordable housing?

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          • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

            Under Mark Carney’s Liberal government, the CMHC has quietly redefined ‘housing affordability’ to no longer mean 30% of income, but “perhaps 40-45% … [and] over 50% of income by 2035”.

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            Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

            In a move that received little public fanfare but will have implications for housing policy across Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has officially abandoned its 2004 benchmark for housing affordability. In its place? The "more re

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            The Real Estate Institute of Canada (www.reic.ca)

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            leastaction@lemmy.ca
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            CMHC is not run by the Prime Minister or the cabinet. It is a Crown Corporation governed by a Board of Directors. Mr. Carney has not “redefined affordable housing”. https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/about-us/management-and-governance/board-of-directors-and-its-committees

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            • Nik282000N Nik282000

              So, you think Poilievre was the right choice then? The guy who consistently voted against affordable housing?

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              auli@lemmy.ca
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              What makes you think any of them where the right choice. Whole system has been be burned to the ground.

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              • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                Finally tracked down the original report, which can be downloaded from this page:

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                Canada’s Housing Supply Shortages: Moving to a New Framework

                Learn more about CMHC’s new housing supply framework and why Canada needs to build around 430,000 to 480,000 new homes annually by 2035 to restore affordability.

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                (www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca)

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                sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                While there are concerns that increasing housing supply would cause house prices to fall rapidly and pose a risk to financial stability, this is unlikely. Housing supply cannot be increased rapidly enough in reality to trigger such an event.

                We’re fucked. 🤣

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                • A auli@lemmy.ca

                  What makes you think any of them where the right choice. Whole system has been be burned to the ground.

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                  Nik282000
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                  100% agree.

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                  • L leastaction@lemmy.ca

                    CMHC is not run by the Prime Minister or the cabinet. It is a Crown Corporation governed by a Board of Directors. Mr. Carney has not “redefined affordable housing”. https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/about-us/management-and-governance/board-of-directors-and-its-committees

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                    m0darn@lemmy.ca
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                    Canadians should mail letters, ring them up, fax them if they can, to let them know that any reasonable person would consider this goal post shifting a complete abdication of their responsibilities.

                    National Office Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation 700 Montreal Road Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0P7

                    Reception/Main number: 613-748-2000 Fax: 613-748-2098

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                    • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                      Under Mark Carney’s Liberal government, the CMHC has quietly redefined ‘housing affordability’ to no longer mean 30% of income, but “perhaps 40-45% … [and] over 50% of income by 2035”.

                      Link Preview Image
                      Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

                      In a move that received little public fanfare but will have implications for housing policy across Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has officially abandoned its 2004 benchmark for housing affordability. In its place? The "more re

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                      The Real Estate Institute of Canada (www.reic.ca)

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                      hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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                      Rule 1, please change the headline to what is on the article.

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                      • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                        Honestly I only went and looked for the report because of a post on Bluesky by Peter Julian.

                        That said, this post seems to have already gotten more reach than a sitting former MP’s did on that platform, so you’re right about the fediverse!

                        Regardless, I agree it should be much bigger news.

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                        garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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                        Oh, was Peter Julian voted out this last election? Damn I don’t live there anymore but that’s a shame.

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                        • Nik282000N Nik282000

                          So, you think Poilievre was the right choice then? The guy who consistently voted against affordable housing?

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                          teppa
                          wrote on last edited by teppa@piefed.ca
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                          The government building it doesn’t make something affordable, the supply relative to demand does. Harper had 1/3 the immigration, thus housing was affordable.

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                          • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                            Under Mark Carney’s Liberal government, the CMHC has quietly redefined ‘housing affordability’ to no longer mean 30% of income, but “perhaps 40-45% … [and] over 50% of income by 2035”.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

                            In a move that received little public fanfare but will have implications for housing policy across Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has officially abandoned its 2004 benchmark for housing affordability. In its place? The "more re

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                            The Real Estate Institute of Canada (www.reic.ca)

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                            Otter
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                            Hi @patatas@sh.itjust.works, please keep the original title and add your context in the post body. This post will be removed otherwise

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                            • T teppa

                              The new boss is the same as the old boss, but what would you expect when you vote for the monopoly man who built his empire selling greenwashing funds that mainly hold large US tech stocks.

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                              whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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                              Carney does not run the CMHC.

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                              • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)

                                Mark Carney is awful.

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                                whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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                                Carney does not run the CMHC. Your point may still be valid but in this context he did not make this decision.

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                                • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                                  Under Mark Carney’s Liberal government, the CMHC has quietly redefined ‘housing affordability’ to no longer mean 30% of income, but “perhaps 40-45% … [and] over 50% of income by 2035”.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

                                  In a move that received little public fanfare but will have implications for housing policy across Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has officially abandoned its 2004 benchmark for housing affordability. In its place? The "more re

                                  favicon

                                  The Real Estate Institute of Canada (www.reic.ca)

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                                  sturgist@lemmy.ca
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                                  Actual headline:

                                  Redefining Affordability: Why CMHC’s Benchmark Shift Matters

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                                  • whoisearth@lemmy.caW whoisearth@lemmy.ca

                                    Carney does not run the CMHC.

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                                    teppa
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                                    #24

                                    He did hire housing ministers that ballooned Vancouver real estate however, who also says that housing prices shouldnt come down because its boomers retirement fund.

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                                    • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

                                      Oh, was Peter Julian voted out this last election? Damn I don’t live there anymore but that’s a shame.

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                                      patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Lotta great NDP MPs lost their ridings, really sucks. Matthew Green lost here in Hamilton Centre too, so disappointing

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                                      • whoisearth@lemmy.caW whoisearth@lemmy.ca

                                        Carney does not run the CMHC. Your point may still be valid but in this context he did not make this decision.

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                                        patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                                        To be fair, from what I can find, their board is appointed by the federal govt and they’re absolutely going to take their cues from government policy.

                                        If the Feds had released a budget with money and a plan for housing construction, or if they were forcing large corporate landlords to start selling, or any number of other possible things, then this report would look a lot different.

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                                        • L leastaction@lemmy.ca

                                          CMHC is not run by the Prime Minister or the cabinet. It is a Crown Corporation governed by a Board of Directors. Mr. Carney has not “redefined affordable housing”. https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/about-us/management-and-governance/board-of-directors-and-its-committees

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                                          patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                                          OK, and who appoints the Board? And who sets government policy and tables a budget that determines what the CMHC can realistically do?

                                          This is absolutely the responsibility of the federal government, even if they don’t author these reports.

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