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Carney: "Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon."

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  • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

    I totally agree trump fucked the deal. He’s an absolute narcissist. He wants to tear down anything from Democrats. He wants to put his name on everything.

    But at the end of the day, I’m kind of rooting for him here. I’m hoping this all blows over quickly and we’re in a world where Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons is crippled

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    inaminate_carbon_rod@lemmy.world
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    Yeah cause the generations of Iranian children to come will just shrug and say “big Daddy America was correct to take away our stuff”

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    • B Caedarai

      Well, Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrosit groups, arming and financing many in region to attack neighbours. You don’t see China arming terrorists in Mongolia or Vietnam to overthrow their governments, for starters. Then there is the bit where their official policy is basically to end the state of Israel. And there’s the fact that they have used terror themselves, kidnapping and extorsion to directly confront the west before, kidnap US citizens and fought wars against the western countries and allies. And both their official internal and external policies and policy goals are frankly terrifying.

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      hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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      #30

      Nah, China just does oppression and genocide inside their borders. Oh and taking hostages as well.

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      • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

        I seriously doubt its all going to blow over. No retailiation by Iran sends a signal of " bomb us anyone, we don’t fire back "

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        melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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        #31

        For sure, but Iran doesn’t have many options do they? I think by blow over, I mean they’ll retaliate in the way these countries do. They will signal their attack loudly and early. USA and Israel will have time to prepare. Iran attacks. America says fuck you and does a return. Iran again does another attack with a huge signal to say look we’re retaliating. Then it’s all back to business as usual. Everybody gets to say they did something and they’re all big bad boys.

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        • H hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          Either everyone gets nukes or no one gets nukes. Iran has every right to have them. Fuck I’d rather they have em than the Zionists next door who basically run a death cult.

          And Ill wager any “nuke” that ever goes off in North America will end up being an Israeli false flag.

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          revan343@lemmy.ca
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          And Ill wager any “nuke” that ever goes off in North America will end up being an Israeli false flag.

          I’ll take that bet; I figure the first nuke to be used in anger on this side of the pond will be during the second American civil war

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          • I inaminate_carbon_rod@lemmy.world

            Yeah cause the generations of Iranian children to come will just shrug and say “big Daddy America was correct to take away our stuff”

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            melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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            #33

            What’s the alternative? Is that a regime who vocally says they will kill my children are allowed to get nukes?

            That I should be ok with that because peace and love and hugs?

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            • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

              What’s the alternative? Is that a regime who vocally says they will kill my children are allowed to get nukes?

              That I should be ok with that because peace and love and hugs?

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              inaminate_carbon_rod@lemmy.world
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              “Allowed”

              Sorry daddy.

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              • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                Nah, China just does oppression and genocide inside their borders. Oh and taking hostages as well.

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                Caedarai
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                That’s the point. From an international relations standpoint there’s no major issue with China where humans rights violations are concerned. Since the don’t arm groups outside their borders, there doesn’t need to be an international response for that because there’s no international threat. The tensions with China are mostly with respect to Taiwan and trade.

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                • A anachronist@midwest.social

                  A few months ago I said maybe Canadians shouldn’t put their faith into a globalist neolib banker and got down-voted.

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                  jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                  #36

                  The best of 2 bad options, simple as that. There was no win in this election.

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                  • A anachronist@midwest.social

                    A few months ago I said maybe Canadians shouldn’t put their faith into a globalist neolib banker and got down-voted.

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                    jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                    #37

                    The best of 2 bad options, simple as that. There was no win in this election.

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                    • I inaminate_carbon_rod@lemmy.world

                      “Allowed”

                      Sorry daddy.

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                      melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                      #38

                      What’s the problem with your understanding of allowed here?

                      You think it’s their choice lol

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                      • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

                        For sure, but Iran doesn’t have many options do they? I think by blow over, I mean they’ll retaliate in the way these countries do. They will signal their attack loudly and early. USA and Israel will have time to prepare. Iran attacks. America says fuck you and does a return. Iran again does another attack with a huge signal to say look we’re retaliating. Then it’s all back to business as usual. Everybody gets to say they did something and they’re all big bad boys.

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                        bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                        From a friend that has connections there, some Iranians welcomed the assaults because they want their current leader removed. And I’m sure USA would love to install a leader there again.

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                        • B Caedarai

                          That’s the point. From an international relations standpoint there’s no major issue with China where humans rights violations are concerned. Since the don’t arm groups outside their borders, there doesn’t need to be an international response for that because there’s no international threat. The tensions with China are mostly with respect to Taiwan and trade.

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                          Nik282000
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                          Wasn’t there a country operating ‘police stations’ all over Canada? Which country was that?

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                          • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                            From a friend that has connections there, some Iranians welcomed the assaults because they want their current leader removed. And I’m sure USA would love to install a leader there again.

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                            melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                            That’s what I’m hearing of too. I’ll honestly admit if Trump pulled this move and it leads to a regime change. Fuck I’ll give it to him as a ballsy move that worked. I would think at this point if it works, and I were to deny the victory I would be doing it just because I don’t like Trump and I think that’s something I don’t want to do just out of spite.

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                            • H hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                              Either everyone gets nukes or no one gets nukes. Iran has every right to have them. Fuck I’d rather they have em than the Zionists next door who basically run a death cult.

                              And Ill wager any “nuke” that ever goes off in North America will end up being an Israeli false flag.

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                              skyezopen@lemmy.world
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                              I feel like that would almost guarantee Israel and Iran being turned into glass parking lots.

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                              • T tleb@lemmy.ca

                                To me, this statement sounds like not condoning America’s actions but still walking the line as to not sabotage trade talks. This has been Carney’s MO with Trump from the start, appease just enough without bending the knee to get a deal done.

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                                ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
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                                #43

                                That’s what it seems like to me as well.

                                The last paragraph reads tongue-in-cheek, reminding people that Trump is going against the G7, against America’s own policies, and did nothing to alleviate tensions.

                                He knows if Trump even makes it to the last paragraph, he won’t understand it.

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                                • S skyezopen@lemmy.world

                                  I feel like that would almost guarantee Israel and Iran being turned into glass parking lots.

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                                  hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  #44

                                  If your talking the nuke in the US, yea I agree.

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                                  • H hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    If your talking the nuke in the US, yea I agree.

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                                    skyezopen@lemmy.world
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                                    I mean Iran having nukes. The least destructive outcome would probably be the one I mentioned. If the US got nuked, I think the world would be over.

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                                    • A anachronist@midwest.social

                                      A few months ago I said maybe Canadians shouldn’t put their faith into a globalist neolib banker and got down-voted.

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                                      dtules@lemmy.ca
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                                      PP came out with even stronger statements backing Israel, so…

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                                      • B Caedarai

                                        That’s the point. From an international relations standpoint there’s no major issue with China where humans rights violations are concerned. Since the don’t arm groups outside their borders, there doesn’t need to be an international response for that because there’s no international threat. The tensions with China are mostly with respect to Taiwan and trade.

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                                        hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                        So taking hostages isn’t an international issue?

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