My Tesla Cybertruck Got Totaled After It Was Sideswiped by an E-Scooter. All-in, I paid $198K, but Insurance is Only Offering Me a “Fair Market Value” of $77K. I Still Owe the Bank $171,500
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I paid a broker in California to find one and ship it to me. Their fees were $50k plus fees/taxes (totally reasonable seeing how limited they were.)
Allstate isn’t covering that and is hitting me with depreciation. Can I fight this?
What a dumbass. Hell no your insurance isn’t going to cover the amount you paid somebody to go and find one of these for you, and no, $50K for that service is not reasonable lmao
totally reasonable seeing how limited they were
When was this? Because I read an article today about a Detroit shopping mall fixing to sue over the excess Cybertruck parked in their lot.
“At this point I think I know more about manufacturing than…”
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Just some free finance advice. Vehicles are a money sink, they only lose you value. If you aren’t comfortable with the concept of losing money, DO NOT buy an expensive vehicle. But the cheapest used car you can with cash on hand. Now, that’s not possible for everyone. And it’s not practical for everyone, it might be in your best interest to lease a vehicle for a monthly fee. Your lease should be with a reputable car dealer that has some kind of agreement to regularly maintain the car, and to trade it in often for another car without increasing your fees. The goal here is to pay as little as you can, and trade in often so you don’t ever reach the point of needing serious repairs to the vehicle. Different situations have different needs, no one size solution works. But I’d HIGHLY discourage taking out a large debt in order to buy a new car. Your losing money you don’t have. That’s a bad idea. Then again, bankruptcy has few downsides when you are already poor.
Sidenote: If you work for yourself or have your own business, leasing is a great option.
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almost forgot the obligatory reply
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totally reasonable seeing how limited they were
When was this? Because I read an article today about a Detroit shopping mall fixing to sue over the excess Cybertruck parked in their lot.
“At this point I think I know more about manufacturing than…”
January 2024, per the article. Things changed a lot in the last 16 months…
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Time to swipe some “trucks”.
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Yeah, I’ve been on the other side of that, but sideswiped by a scooter? I get that they aren’t worth as much as they were, but still…
Cybertrucks are really, really bad for repairability. Consider the fact that on a normal car you can fix a dent by getting the panel most of the way back to the correct shape and then fairing it the rest of the way with Bondo before painting it. But with a Cybertruck, you’d have to metalwork the panel all the way back to perfect and then somehow figure out how to match the surface finish. It’s a lot more labor, if it’s even possible.
It could be that the insurance doubts that the vehicle can be completely restored to its pre-loss condition at any price.
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I read the article hoping to find out how being sideswiped by an e-scooter could total a truck, but I was left unsatisfied.
I suspect his story is bullshit. His truck was sideswiped by an e-scooter with enough force to damage the doors, wheels, deploy the airbags, and render the vehicle immobile? How fast/massive was this e-scooter? Did the e-scooter rider survive this incredible impact? None of this passes the sniff test unless there is some misalignment in the understanding of what constitutes an e-scooter or he was hit with a glancing blow by a magnetically launched scooter with a rather large rider.
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Cybertrucks are really, really bad for repairability. Consider the fact that on a normal car you can fix a dent by getting the panel most of the way back to the correct shape and then fairing it the rest of the way with Bondo before painting it. But with a Cybertruck, you’d have to metalwork the panel all the way back to perfect and then somehow figure out how to match the surface finish. It’s a lot more labor, if it’s even possible.
It could be that the insurance doubts that the vehicle can be completely restored to its pre-loss condition at any price.
metalwork the panel all the way back to perfect
My dude, have you ever seen a Swastikkkar? Those panels ain’t even perfect when they leave the factory.
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Did the scooter fall from a building on it?
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What the fuck is wrong with US insurance?! This person’s poor vehicle choices aside, when I insure my vehicle in Australia, we (the insurance company and I) agree an insured value when I take out the insurance. They set the cost based on that agreed value and a few other things. Then if my car is written off they pay me the agreed value plus any other costs covered. What’s this agreed market value nonsense? Why would anyone agree to that for a financed vehicle?
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metalwork the panel all the way back to perfect
My dude, have you ever seen a Swastikkkar? Those panels ain’t even perfect when they leave the factory.
Thats the hard part, how would a bodyshop mimic the shittyness of the factory look
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I’m with you. How fast was that scooter going?!
At least 2mph.
Probably.
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Alternatively, it means that the car purchase was done without enough money for the down payment and therefore maybe the buyer couldn’t actually afford the car. With a solid down payment, you should never have to be underwater on the auto loan in the first place. You can plan to stay ahead of the depreciation over the life of the loan because you already paid for the drop in value.
With too little down though, gap coverage is a must.
Down paymeny? No. He had to have rolled over negative equity into the loan.
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Thats the hard part, how would a bodyshop mimic the shittyness of the factory look
Step 1: take in damaged Cybertruck.
Step 2: do absolutely fuckall to it.
Step 3: charge owner $6000 for repairs.
Step 4: watch happy owner drive off.
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I read the article hoping to find out how being sideswiped by an e-scooter could total a truck, but I was left unsatisfied.
Put a crease in the metal down the whole length of any vehicle and the bill wont be gentle.
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What the fuck is wrong with US insurance?! This person’s poor vehicle choices aside, when I insure my vehicle in Australia, we (the insurance company and I) agree an insured value when I take out the insurance. They set the cost based on that agreed value and a few other things. Then if my car is written off they pay me the agreed value plus any other costs covered. What’s this agreed market value nonsense? Why would anyone agree to that for a financed vehicle?
You can get insurance that covers what you owe regardless of the actual value of the vehicle; insurance companies are presumably going to calculate the cost of that insurance based on the difference between the two. Dude presumably decided it was too expensive
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I read the article hoping to find out how being sideswiped by an e-scooter could total a truck, but I was left unsatisfied.
It was a made up story posted to reddit. The original reddit post was deleted but people mentioned the pictures were taken directly from this story of a Cybertruck being hit by a Toyota: https://www.electrifiedmag.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-holiday-hiccup-first-reported-accident/
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How the hell did a scooter do 77k of damage (or more)? Was it fired out of a rail gun? Did the rider survive? Do they need help?
Most likely explanation: had to wait for the cop to do a police report and got caught out in the rain and forgot to activate car wash mode.
Perfectly reasonable and normal for a scooter to destroy a giant pickup. Was the scooter made by space x?
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Just some free finance advice. Vehicles are a money sink, they only lose you value. If you aren’t comfortable with the concept of losing money, DO NOT buy an expensive vehicle. But the cheapest used car you can with cash on hand. Now, that’s not possible for everyone. And it’s not practical for everyone, it might be in your best interest to lease a vehicle for a monthly fee. Your lease should be with a reputable car dealer that has some kind of agreement to regularly maintain the car, and to trade it in often for another car without increasing your fees. The goal here is to pay as little as you can, and trade in often so you don’t ever reach the point of needing serious repairs to the vehicle. Different situations have different needs, no one size solution works. But I’d HIGHLY discourage taking out a large debt in order to buy a new car. Your losing money you don’t have. That’s a bad idea. Then again, bankruptcy has few downsides when you are already poor.
There’s a point where the cheapest used car can end up costing more than a slightly more expensive one. While I agree with your advice generally, I’d instead recommend buying the most reliable used vehicle you can afford.
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