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Canada Post workers on nationwide strike after government demands reforms

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      archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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      Want to know how to get Canada Post back on its feet, financially? Ban private delivery services.

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        Want to know how to get Canada Post back on its feet, financially? Ban private delivery services.

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        thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
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        Years of fake colleges bringing in cheap ‘independent contractors’, undermining Canada Post. This is 100% on the Liberals, allowing fake Canadian colleges to exist. Allowing these jobs to be classified as independent. Everyone knows the scam, it happened under the Liberals. Shame.

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          Years of fake colleges bringing in cheap ‘independent contractors’, undermining Canada Post. This is 100% on the Liberals, allowing fake Canadian colleges to exist. Allowing these jobs to be classified as independent. Everyone knows the scam, it happened under the Liberals. Shame.

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          slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works
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          I blame all the parties. You can too!

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            I blame all the parties. You can too!

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            thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world
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            I’m a lefty, but not partisan. This nonsense has been happening at a Federal level for years (immigration and colleges are federal), the Liberals have been in power since 2015. So this is the LIberal’s fault. They’ve recently put a cap on International students, that helped, but too little too late.

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              whitebrow@lemmy.world
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              Good. Eliminating all door to door deliveries is not the answer and whoever came up with that rationale needs to removed immediately.

              And again, for the people in the back: Canada post is a service. It doesn’t make money. It costs money. Same way public healthcare does.

              Why are they trying to spin it as a business that needs to generate profit or undertake cost cutting measures to exist and continue providing services that are still being widely used?

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              • T thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world

                Years of fake colleges bringing in cheap ‘independent contractors’, undermining Canada Post. This is 100% on the Liberals, allowing fake Canadian colleges to exist. Allowing these jobs to be classified as independent. Everyone knows the scam, it happened under the Liberals. Shame.

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                Krudler
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                Jesus fucking Christ no. It was conservative cuts to the service.

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                  Stand with the posties and send a message to this government that siding with corporations instead of labour won’t end well.

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                  • A archangel1313@lemmy.ca

                    Want to know how to get Canada Post back on its feet, financially? Ban private delivery services.

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                    mrdown@lemmy.world
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                    Compete , optimize operation cost, and don’t listen to trump asking to spend 5% on NATO

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                      Compete , optimize operation cost, and don’t listen to trump asking to spend 5% on NATO

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                      archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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                      Competition divides revenue, which leads to lower wages and benefits. The only people that benefit from competition, are the ones who own the company. And Canada Post is a government service. Its success should not be tied to profits.

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                        Years of fake colleges bringing in cheap ‘independent contractors’, undermining Canada Post. This is 100% on the Liberals, allowing fake Canadian colleges to exist. Allowing these jobs to be classified as independent. Everyone knows the scam, it happened under the Liberals. Shame.

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                        archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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                        How do college students undermine Canada Post? Please, be specific.

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                          Competition divides revenue, which leads to lower wages and benefits. The only people that benefit from competition, are the ones who own the company. And Canada Post is a government service. Its success should not be tied to profits.

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                          mrdown@lemmy.world
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                          Canada Post need to compete on quality of services, not in profits. Being not about profits should gives post canada an advantage if the government is serious at preserving quality public services

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                            How do college students undermine Canada Post? Please, be specific.

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                            prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca
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                            The theory is that students need jobs and money leading to an oversaturated market of gig workers. So delivery companies (whether it’s packages or food) can offer terrible wages and still find people willing to work those jobs.

                            I do believe there is some truth to that, but the problem isn’t the students directly, it’s that our labour laws aren’t strong enough to protect these workers.

                            If Amazon and Uber and Skip all had to pay their drivers as actual employees and give them benefits and cover vehicle and insurance costs, they’d be a lot less competitive compared to all the other businesses (like Canada Post) that are providing those things.

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                              Stand with the posties and send a message to this government that siding with corporations instead of labour won’t end well.

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                              Yardy Sardley
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                              I’m curious to see just how quickly Hajdu will reach for that trusty section 107.

                              Whenever it happens, we’re all in for some pure cinema as the feds realize they’ve already spent the last magic bullet.

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                              • W whitebrow@lemmy.world

                                Good. Eliminating all door to door deliveries is not the answer and whoever came up with that rationale needs to removed immediately.

                                And again, for the people in the back: Canada post is a service. It doesn’t make money. It costs money. Same way public healthcare does.

                                Why are they trying to spin it as a business that needs to generate profit or undertake cost cutting measures to exist and continue providing services that are still being widely used?

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                                deltapi@lemmy.world
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                                Because the service you mention is paid for with postage, not taxes. Their shortfall was 841 million last year. Who is supposed to pay for that?
                                I have direct to door delivery right now. Every day I get flyers for assholes that want to buy my house for pennies on the dollar, and actual mail maybe twice a week.
                                Why are we paying for delivery the other 3 days?
                                The simple reality is that daily direct to door delivery isn’t necessary any more, and if I had to go for a 5 minute walk to collect my mail 3 times a week, I’d be fine with that.

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                                  Because the service you mention is paid for with postage, not taxes. Their shortfall was 841 million last year. Who is supposed to pay for that?
                                  I have direct to door delivery right now. Every day I get flyers for assholes that want to buy my house for pennies on the dollar, and actual mail maybe twice a week.
                                  Why are we paying for delivery the other 3 days?
                                  The simple reality is that daily direct to door delivery isn’t necessary any more, and if I had to go for a 5 minute walk to collect my mail 3 times a week, I’d be fine with that.

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                                  9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Then charge more for the junk mail?

                                  why do people continually accept all of our public services getting shittier and shittier every year?

                                  i’m not here to debate the corporate structure of canada post… whether it is a crown corp, or an arms length private corp, or whatever…

                                  It’s a vital public service for all citizens… period. Make it work… for everyone…

                                  Your particular use case is just one of thousands… actually, i agree with you. I technically dont need monday-friday service… but some others do and thats fine

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                                    Because the service you mention is paid for with postage, not taxes. Their shortfall was 841 million last year. Who is supposed to pay for that?
                                    I have direct to door delivery right now. Every day I get flyers for assholes that want to buy my house for pennies on the dollar, and actual mail maybe twice a week.
                                    Why are we paying for delivery the other 3 days?
                                    The simple reality is that daily direct to door delivery isn’t necessary any more, and if I had to go for a 5 minute walk to collect my mail 3 times a week, I’d be fine with that.

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                                    feyr@lemmy.world
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                                    One thing the USPS does well is sending me an email every morning with a picture of every mail piece that’s going to be delivered that day. Then I can decide if it’s worth checking the mailbox

                                    I can go weeks without checking it

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                                      grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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                                      Both sides got what they wanted. Wouldn’t compromise, and well, here we are. A crown corp that cannot continue in it’s current form because it’s totally insolvent, a union thats got itself backed so far into the corner that it’s pretty much hopeless and that can’t now crawl out of without basically getting hung at high noon by their membership, and the Average Joe Canadian and Canadian businesses who won’t ever be confident enough to seriously use their services for the foreseeable future.

                                      Golf claps to all involved.

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                                        Good. Eliminating all door to door deliveries is not the answer and whoever came up with that rationale needs to removed immediately.

                                        And again, for the people in the back: Canada post is a service. It doesn’t make money. It costs money. Same way public healthcare does.

                                        Why are they trying to spin it as a business that needs to generate profit or undertake cost cutting measures to exist and continue providing services that are still being widely used?

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                                        grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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                                        It doesn’t need to be profitable, but if it’s literally burning billions of dollars a year, it’s quite obviously not efficient nor a smart use of our capital.

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                                          Stand with the posties and send a message to this government that siding with corporations instead of labour won’t end well.

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                                          grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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                                          I’m not standing with either side here. This is going to be a case study in how not ever being able to reach a compromise completely destroys the public’s confidence in an institution. I just watched a rather large institution say behind closed doors today, that they’ll never have confidence in CP and it’s very soon going to be codified in their policy that it’s never used for any corporate purposes in the future. I’m also on a board that has already reached that conclusion with the uncertainty earlier this year, and now has a resolution out to their membership at their AGM to only electronically send notice for funds collections in the future, as CP can no longer be counted on.

                                          CP is legitimately fucked, in more ways than one, and will never exist in the way it did yesterday morning, no matter what happens here. This is the nightmare scenario, and both the executive and the union only have themselves to thank for it. Their membership should be mad as hell, because not very many of them are going to have the jobs they once did. As a tax paying Canadian, I’m pretty mad at the executive too, how they can burn that much cash is mind boggling. Pretty f’n broken. You can curse me and throw all the hate that you want at me for this viewpoint, but it’s the stone cold truth.

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