Skip to content
0
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Sketchy)
  • No Skin
Collapse

Wandering Adventure Party

  1. Home
  2. Canada
  3. Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)

Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Canada
canada
149 Posts 27 Posters 5 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

    Do you believe in a two state solution?

    deceptichum@quokk.auD This user is from outside of this forum
    deceptichum@quokk.auD This user is from outside of this forum
    deceptichum@quokk.au
    wrote on last edited by
    #40

    Not anymore.

    There can be no peace as long as the Zionist genocidal terror state of Israel continues to exist; Destroy it as Rhodesia was destroyed and let the people form a new fairer country.

    1 Reply Last reply
    6
    • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)
      This post did not contain any content.
      Link Preview Image
      Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)

      Listen now | It's not the first problematic comment he's made about the Middle East.

      favicon

      (rachelgilmore.substack.com)

      T This user is from outside of this forum
      T This user is from outside of this forum
      teppa
      wrote on last edited by
      #41

      So he wants them to switch religions and integrate into Israel?

      1 Reply Last reply
      10
      • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

        Until the majority of Palestinians accept that Israel has a right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, there won’t be lasting peace between the two. An incredibly poor choice of words, but the point is clear to those willing to listen.

        P This user is from outside of this forum
        P This user is from outside of this forum
        psx_crab@lemmy.zip
        wrote on last edited by
        #42

        In what way occupying West Bank and preventing people from getting basic needs while trying hard to deport them from their land do you see it as a fight for their right to exists?

        A 1 Reply Last reply
        15
        • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)
          This post did not contain any content.
          Link Preview Image
          Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)

          Listen now | It's not the first problematic comment he's made about the Middle East.

          favicon

          (rachelgilmore.substack.com)

          N This user is from outside of this forum
          N This user is from outside of this forum
          njm1314@lemmy.world
          wrote on last edited by
          #43

          So straight up he is a genocidal fascist then huh?

          1 Reply Last reply
          9
          • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

            Until the majority of Palestinians accept that Israel has a right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, there won’t be lasting peace between the two. An incredibly poor choice of words, but the point is clear to those willing to listen.

            N This user is from outside of this forum
            N This user is from outside of this forum
            njm1314@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by njm1314@lemmy.world
            #44

            The entire point of Zionism is you don’t exist alongside Palestine.

            A 1 Reply Last reply
            13
            • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

              Sounds like a good reason to surrender.

              M This user is from outside of this forum
              M This user is from outside of this forum
              maam@feddit.uk
              wrote on last edited by
              #45

              What is wrong with you…

              A 1 Reply Last reply
              4
              • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)
                This post did not contain any content.
                Link Preview Image
                Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)

                Listen now | It's not the first problematic comment he's made about the Middle East.

                favicon

                (rachelgilmore.substack.com)

                M This user is from outside of this forum
                M This user is from outside of this forum
                minorkeys@lemmy.world
                wrote on last edited by
                #46

                But did he though…?

                1 Reply Last reply
                6
                • acargitzT acargitz

                  What a profoundly stupid thing to say.

                  Kindly, a Greek who isn’t making ridiculous claims on Marseille, Taranto, Constantinople, Caesarea, Cyrene, Antioch and Alexandria on the motherfucking Indus.

                  K This user is from outside of this forum
                  K This user is from outside of this forum
                  kaboom@reddthat.com
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #47

                  And why aren’t you making those claims? You some kinda charity?

                  acargitzT 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • K kaboom@reddthat.com

                    And why aren’t you making those claims? You some kinda charity?

                    acargitzT This user is from outside of this forum
                    acargitzT This user is from outside of this forum
                    acargitz
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #48

                    You are American, I presume?

                    K 1 Reply Last reply
                    12
                    • acargitzT acargitz

                      You are American, I presume?

                      K This user is from outside of this forum
                      K This user is from outside of this forum
                      kaboom@reddthat.com
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #49

                      Yes, and you?

                      acargitzT M 2 Replies Last reply
                      0
                      • acargitzT acargitz

                        The last 30 years of Israeli state policy after the Oslo accords has resulted in facts on the ground (Israeli phrasing, not mine) to the tune of 700k Israeli settlers in the West Bank.

                        As the various calls for two states invariably ignore the Israeli facts on the ground, and do not propose any realistic vision for undoing them, at this stage they are merely promoting the creation of a Bantustan within the existing apartheid framework.

                        In other words, the israeli facts on the ground have killed off the possibility of a two state solution, where Palestine would be an actual state. This means there are only two options:

                        A) a continuation of the apartheid regime of the present, potentially with a Palestinian collaborationist Banstustan, and with various degrees of Israeli perpetrated genocide and ethnic cleansing thrown in during the inevitable flare-ups of violence.

                        B) a plurinational post-apartheid democratic state with equal rights for all nationalities and religions from the Jordan to the Mediterranean.

                        I guess the third option is for Israel to self-ethnically cleanse the settlers from the West Bank, but that sounds even more outlandish than the supposedly idealistic option B.

                        There used to be an phrase that Israel can be “large, Jewish, democratic, but can only pick 2”. Over the last 30 years since Oslo, successive Israeli governments, more or less dominated by the Israeli Right, and basically by Netanyahu, has forced the choice of “Large”. So now the Israelis have to pick between Zionism and Democracy.

                        R This user is from outside of this forum
                        R This user is from outside of this forum
                        rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #50

                        There the other part where between gaza and the west bank there is israel so who will control the land that palestinians need to pass to move from gaza to the west bank and the west bank to gaza

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        1
                        • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                          There are people responsible on both sides. I will not argue with you about that fact.

                          M This user is from outside of this forum
                          M This user is from outside of this forum
                          mongostein@lemmy.ca
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #51

                          Except there are 5 sides. The US government, the Israeli government, the Israeli people, Hamas, and the Palestinian people.

                          The Israeli government, the US government, and Hamas can all go fuck themselves. It’s the Palestinian people who are needlessly suffering.

                          A 1 Reply Last reply
                          2
                          • K kaboom@reddthat.com

                            It kinda does. They have an older claim than the Muslims.

                            K This user is from outside of this forum
                            K This user is from outside of this forum
                            kent_eh@lemmy.ca
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #52

                            And who has an older claim to the land your house is on?

                            K 1 Reply Last reply
                            8
                            • K kaboom@reddthat.com

                              Yes, and you?

                              acargitzT This user is from outside of this forum
                              acargitzT This user is from outside of this forum
                              acargitz
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #53

                              Well, given my previous post two comments up the thread, I’m obviously Tunisian.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              6
                              • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                                Until the majority of Palestinians accept that Israel has a right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, there won’t be lasting peace between the two. An incredibly poor choice of words, but the point is clear to those willing to listen.

                                S This user is from outside of this forum
                                S This user is from outside of this forum
                                slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #54

                                Honest question, what gives any country a right to exist?

                                A P 2 Replies Last reply
                                4
                                • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

                                  And who has an older claim to the land your house is on?

                                  K This user is from outside of this forum
                                  K This user is from outside of this forum
                                  kaboom@reddthat.com
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #55

                                  The native Americans. They’re welcome to try to take it.

                                  C V 2 Replies Last reply
                                  0
                                  • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)
                                    This post did not contain any content.
                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)

                                    Listen now | It's not the first problematic comment he's made about the Middle East.

                                    favicon

                                    (rachelgilmore.substack.com)

                                    S This user is from outside of this forum
                                    S This user is from outside of this forum
                                    some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #56

                                    Hey zionists. You can chortle my balls.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    14
                                    • S slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works

                                      Honest question, what gives any country a right to exist?

                                      A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      arkouda@lemmy.ca
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #57

                                      International Law.

                                      S W 2 Replies Last reply
                                      1
                                      • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                                        Except there are 5 sides. The US government, the Israeli government, the Israeli people, Hamas, and the Palestinian people.

                                        The Israeli government, the US government, and Hamas can all go fuck themselves. It’s the Palestinian people who are needlessly suffering.

                                        A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        arkouda@lemmy.ca
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #58

                                        There is also Iran, Russia, China, and numerous other countries with skin in the game. The point is there are really only two sides to the issue and it is “Israel and Palestine get to exist or one group gets to leave”. Anyone who does not believe in a two state solution can go fuck themselves back to 1967.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • M maam@feddit.uk

                                          What is wrong with you…

                                          A This user is from outside of this forum
                                          A This user is from outside of this forum
                                          arkouda@lemmy.ca
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #59

                                          Do you have a point to make?

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0

                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          • First post
                                            Last post