Human civilization is bound to die at some point. If we give up now it will just happen faster and with more suffering. If we fight we will still improve things, maybe not everything will be okay, but when has it ever been?

There’s also the biosphere to think about. Even in we go, it doesn’t mean that all life has to go with us

Exactly. Fuck the humans, at this point I just want as much as else possible to be saved.

Luigis for billionaires would be a great start.

I mean, that’s the thing. We all know there are solutions. But governments and billionaires at this point have to make the solutions happen, and they have no interest in many places. Hell, they’re actively working on behalf of climate change and environmental destruction in the US just to own the Libs and to the cheers of the rabid troglodyte portion of its populace. You don’t just have to contend with getting the facts to people, you have to contend with being but one voice amid all the antifacts that everyone is bombarded daily on every topic.

I know I’m a doomer, but sans an effective virus that takes out 80% of the population and mostly targets anyone right of center and all of the billionaires, I don’t think we have this one in us.

I’m sick of this WE, im not a billionaire pumping more Co2 per day with my yacht fleet than a town of people do in their life. I’m sick of being blamed for this shit, when all my conservation is undone in a minute by a corporation. I refuse to take equal blame any longer

It’ll just be another chapter in Earth’s history. We’re not the first life form to have caused an extinction event due to radically changing Earth’s atmosphere.

What it would prove to us, however, is that; despite our massive ego, we (humanity) are no better than, or more above the laws of nature than, those first single-celled organisms that radically changed Earth’s atmosphere to one of oxygen. Yet monumentally less significant in our footprint.

Good point. I try my best, but even if like 90 % of the population tried harder, it would barely offset the billionaire companies killing our planet.

They’re the problem, always has been that way.

I think it’s time to stop them.

Well, one way in which we can help fight against climate change is by not eating meat or dairy products.

For anyone curious about the subject, there’s some good science backing that up, though the links I’m providing are lazy DDG searches, so if anyone wants to do it, they can probably find better sources out there with more information.

The average cow can produce somewhere between 100-500 litres of methane a day, which is 23 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

Alfalfa and other grass hays is a crop that used a crazy amount of water, and it’s grown primarily to feed cows.

Going vegan, or at least mostly vegan, is the way to go. Can start with going vegetarian and at least swapping out meat sources. Alternative vegan protein sources

With that being said, I do not practice what I preach. I should, though.

Again though, I do all these things and it doesn’t matter cause my entire life’s output of CO2 is being put out by one guy in an hour. I’m turning off lights and corporate buildings are running all the lights and AC 24/7

The actual problem is democratic oligarchism/zionism/neocon warmongering/US colonialism. Protecting establishment is easily supported when higher priorities than human sustainability can be manufactured. The more miserable you are made, the less you care about “higher level Maslow hierarchy needs” at political level.

The best we can do for the planet is toss a few billionaires into a volcano as a sacrifice to earth

Now that’s some carbon sequestration

every tipping point is just an arbitrary line that climate scientists draw to try to draw people’s attention to the problem

The +1.5C threshold is a somewhat arbitrary line designed around tipping points. The tipping points themselves are not imaginary/arbitrary. Forest fire spread increase. Methane defrosting. Polar melting path certainty. All of these increase GHGs and warming. Hurricane intensity+drought+intense rainfall events destroying property values is somewhat of an economic tipping point starting to affect some right now.

I think we’re past the point of the car hitting the wall even if we brake, and the damage ruining your day. We’re not past the point that braking will save lives or even make the car unrepairable.

Futurama, Crimes of the hot episode was a prophecy

All that’s left is to make the rich suffer.

We kill 80 billion land animals per year for factory farming and we’ve caused almost 2 species of animal per year, every year, to go completely extinct over the last 500 years.

We are going to destroy almost all life on this planet.

Even if we intentionally released as much co2 as we could all life on earth is not at risk. Remember that there’s a fair amount of life that is virtually unchanged since the paleozoic period when all that co2 was in the air. Beyond that there’s stuff that hangs out in volcanic vents, rapidly evolving life that can adapt even to rapid change, bacteria, molds, mosses and algae. And who knows maybe there’s even a small adaptable mammal or 2 that gets out and evolves enough for a second attempt at sapience.

Don’t get me wrong the climate disaster is truly a unique and devastating extinction event, but humans are not so powerful as to leave the earth a completely lifeless rock.

I suppose it wasn’t clear in my comment but I’m not advocating for doing nothing. Just to have realistic expectations about what is possible. If you sell everyone on reversing everything, and then fail, it will breed discontent further than being honest. That’s all.