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Ottawa to bring back EV incentives: Minister Joly

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  • P pedz@lemmy.ca

    It’s so ridiculous. I know it’s a provincial matter but some suburbs around Montréal are trying to build TOD and they get threatened by the transit authority to have their train lines reduced or cut. Even if they are already not in function during evenings and weekends.

    And VIA Rail trains have been extra late for a few months now, with no end in sight.

    Plus, the coach industry is continuing to reduce and/or cut routes. Fifteen years ago I could go from Drummondville to Victoriaville, and be back the same day. Now there’s three coaches a week. I once heard a guy in a train from Drummondville to Montréal, saying that he was visiting his brother in Victoriaville when he had to leave a day earlier and discovered there were simply no coaches leaving the city that day. He paid $80 for a taxi to get him to Drummondville so he could then take a train home.

    As someone that tries to get around without a car, some days, all levels of governments make me wish I had one.

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    kmamuri@lemmy.world
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    I live in Nova Scotia. They just ripped out a bunch of train rails near me because people keep talking about funding train service again. It would be amazing for us living rural to be able to travel carless since we are so far from lots of things. I’m sure that’s why the last tracks here are being pulled up now. The trucking companies that charge extra to come to our island just because it’s an island and used to be more difficult to get to would be out of business. There is no reason since the 1960’s but they continue to charge us for nothing. No tracks means no trains for sure.

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    • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

      There should be an affordable EV model for 5K.

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      #22

      Yeah it’s called an electric bicycle

      No but joking aside, we need something like the Twizy EV here.

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      • A Hemingways_Shotgun

        Have fun getting groceries. Have fun renovating your house. Have fun taking a load of household recycling to where it needs to go.

        Basically have fun doing anything actual real adults have to do in the really real world.

        I swear to god, you people who think that replacing vehicles with bikes is actually feasible are so laughably naive about how the actual world works that you must just live on a commune somewhere drinking ayahuasca and playing fucking bongos.

        Bikes are great. Ebikes are great. But here in the real world, adults need to do adult stuff. You might as well be telling people that we should all be skateboarding everywhere…

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        nouveau_burnswick@lemmy.world
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        We have a car, the ebike means we don’t need two cars.

        And I do my groceries on foot, strollers hold a lot, and if tiny is amenable, we stop for grocery beers at the pub in the same strip mall.

        Reno’s I use the car for medium loads, delivery for large loads, bike for the 38 trips for “the one thing” I forgot.

        The recycling truck takes my recycling, so I’m not sure about that one?

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        • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

          There should be an affordable EV model for 5K.

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          toastmeister@lemmy.ca
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          #24

          We just tariffed Chinese EV’s to make sure they dont become a reality. We want to fight climate change, but not at the cost of the industries we are ploughing billions of tax payers dollars in to, as the US tariffs us.

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          • T toastmeister@lemmy.ca

            We just tariffed Chinese EV’s to make sure they dont become a reality. We want to fight climate change, but not at the cost of the industries we are ploughing billions of tax payers dollars in to, as the US tariffs us.

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            circav@lemmy.ca
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            I lowkey want a BYD Dolphin.

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            • nbailey@lemmy.caN nbailey@lemmy.ca

              The electric vehicles we should be subsidizing are trolley busses and trams. Or, if we want Future Technology Self Driving Hype we can invest in the original electric self driving vehicle, the electric metro train with ATC. Not some dentist-ass Lexus that’s still going to sit in traffic and make life miserable for everybody else.

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              programmingsocks@pawb.social
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              And ebikes. But they might have to do something about the whole “governments with no jurisdiction ripping out bike lanes” thing.

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              • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

                I lowkey want a BYD Dolphin.

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                toastmeister@lemmy.ca
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                I just want a cheap hybrid. Its weird that if you go from a gas engine to a hybrid in Canada prices jump up 5k.

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                • A Hemingways_Shotgun

                  Have fun getting groceries. Have fun renovating your house. Have fun taking a load of household recycling to where it needs to go.

                  Basically have fun doing anything actual real adults have to do in the really real world.

                  I swear to god, you people who think that replacing vehicles with bikes is actually feasible are so laughably naive about how the actual world works that you must just live on a commune somewhere drinking ayahuasca and playing fucking bongos.

                  Bikes are great. Ebikes are great. But here in the real world, adults need to do adult stuff. You might as well be telling people that we should all be skateboarding everywhere…

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                  ArxCyberwolf
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                  #28

                  You’ve clearly never seen the Dutch. They have absolutely no problem doing grocery shopping and other “real adult” activities with bicycles. As it turns out, cargo bikes exist, and they’re perfectly suited to that purpose.

                  If you’re gonna be condescending, maybe research a little first.

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                  • A Hemingways_Shotgun

                    Have fun getting groceries. Have fun renovating your house. Have fun taking a load of household recycling to where it needs to go.

                    Basically have fun doing anything actual real adults have to do in the really real world.

                    I swear to god, you people who think that replacing vehicles with bikes is actually feasible are so laughably naive about how the actual world works that you must just live on a commune somewhere drinking ayahuasca and playing fucking bongos.

                    Bikes are great. Ebikes are great. But here in the real world, adults need to do adult stuff. You might as well be telling people that we should all be skateboarding everywhere…

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                    periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca
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                    #29

                    So confidently wrong

                    Apparently none of Europe does actually “adult things” since almost none of them own trucks 🙄

                    The application of a couple minutes of thought, or researching what people outside your bubble live like, could have saved you so much embarrassment

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                    • A Hemingways_Shotgun

                      I don’t drive an F-150. I drive a quarter-tonne specifically because I wanted to balance my need for a truck while lessening the impact as much as possible. That’s called “working within the construct of reality” because as a homeowner, I need to make those kinds of decisions.

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                      acargitz
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                      #30

                      You’re being silly with your constant assertion of how many hard decisions you have to make. I’m a homeowner too. Big boy, I pay four different types of taxes and all that. I own a car too. But I also own an electric cargo bike. I also take transit and use my non electric bike and my feet. Most of my groceries come home on foot or by (gasp!) delivery. The real world is not a world where you need to be driving fucking everywhere. In fact, it’s a world where you should only be driving if there is really no better alternative – and you should be voting in local governments that create such alternatives for more and more areas of our lives. Because the responsible adult grown up big boy thing to do is to do as a citizen everything you can to reduce car dependency to as close to zero as we can as a society.

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