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  • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

    Someone explain this to me: https://iris.org.il/images/israel-and-arab-world.gif

    All the countries in yellow are Arab.

    The little tiny slice in the middle in blue is Jewish and in that blue even the West Bank and Gaza are part of that blue island and are mostly occupied by the Arabs.

    And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.

    Why? Why is not the 99% of that land that belongs to the Arabs not enough for them?

    Where are the Jews supposed to go?

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    leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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    Look at a map of Europe, it’s all Europeans. Why did Europeans feel the need to create a settler colony in the middle east to send Jews that weren’t safe in Europe?

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    • L leftytighty@slrpnk.net

      Look at a map of Europe, it’s all Europeans. Why did Europeans feel the need to create a settler colony in the middle east to send Jews that weren’t safe in Europe?

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      lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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      #40

      I dunno but they did. Probably so the Nazis wouldn’t hunt them down and exterminate them all like they tried to do in the 40s?

      Why shouldnt they have their own country?

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      • B bluebadoo@lemmy.world

        Third paragraph, first sentence.

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        cyborganism
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        Ah got it. Thanks.

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        • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

          I dunno but they did. Probably so the Nazis wouldn’t hunt them down and exterminate them all like they tried to do in the 40s?

          Why shouldnt they have their own country?

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          leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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          #42

          Why don’t you give up your house? Canada is safer than the middle east right? Let them take yous. Why shouldn’t they

          White people live all over the world just let them have your house wtf

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          • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

            I dunno but they did. Probably so the Nazis wouldn’t hunt them down and exterminate them all like they tried to do in the 40s?

            Why shouldnt they have their own country?

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            mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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            Give them Austria or some European country that participated in the Nazi side of the WW2 conflict as reparations for the Holocaust.

            Instead colonial powers of the world gave a land that already had a population with mixed ethnicity to a minority in that area, then armed them and backed them to take everything from the majority.

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            • L leftytighty@slrpnk.net

              Why don’t you give up your house? Canada is safer than the middle east right? Let them take yous. Why shouldn’t they

              White people live all over the world just let them have your house wtf

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              lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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              They were occupants of that land before and during the same time as the Arabs.

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              • M mycatiskai@lemmy.ca

                Give them Austria or some European country that participated in the Nazi side of the WW2 conflict as reparations for the Holocaust.

                Instead colonial powers of the world gave a land that already had a population with mixed ethnicity to a minority in that area, then armed them and backed them to take everything from the majority.

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                lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                Do they not have historical and religious connections to the land of Israel with roots dating back thousands of years?

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                • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                  They were occupants of that land before and during the same time as the Arabs.

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                  leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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                  Oh really? All the European descendants who moved there and the currently living fascist Israeli government lived there at the same time as “the Arabs” (who as we all know are a single unified people). My bad that definitely excuses a Western military backed European settlement being declared on land where people already existed, propping up an apartheid ethnostate.

                  I’d make a comparison to the indigenous peoples of North and South America, but unfortunately we Canadians genocided them so hard that a foreign power can’t declare Ontario to be theirs and allow people from all over the world claiming indigenous heritage to come settle here and get treated as a higher caste with additional rights and privileges.

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                  • L leftytighty@slrpnk.net

                    Oh really? All the European descendants who moved there and the currently living fascist Israeli government lived there at the same time as “the Arabs” (who as we all know are a single unified people). My bad that definitely excuses a Western military backed European settlement being declared on land where people already existed, propping up an apartheid ethnostate.

                    I’d make a comparison to the indigenous peoples of North and South America, but unfortunately we Canadians genocided them so hard that a foreign power can’t declare Ontario to be theirs and allow people from all over the world claiming indigenous heritage to come settle here and get treated as a higher caste with additional rights and privileges.

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                    lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                    #47

                    So where were they supposed to go after the Nazis tried to eliminate them? They dont have ancestral or religious ties to other European lands or America or Canada or Australia or Asia or Africa so where?

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                    • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                      So where were they supposed to go after the Nazis tried to eliminate them? They dont have ancestral or religious ties to other European lands or America or Canada or Australia or Asia or Africa so where?

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                      leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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                      #48

                      Hey moron: why were they fleeing Europe if they had no ties

                      They lived there for a long time before the Holocaust

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                      • B bushparty

                        You’re absolutely correct. Canada is not pursuing Palestinian statehood recognition. This statement was the second strongly worded statement against Israel that doesn’t contain any specific actions or steps.

                        But oh boy, wait until warning #3 comes out! I hear it will be even more strongly worded and still have absolutely zero concrete plans or consequences!

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                        patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                        #49

                        Al Jazeera is reporting that Macron asked the UK and Canada to join France in recognising Palestinian statehood but neither were willing.

                        Obviously I very much hope that we do, but I agree, the above tweet does not indicate that we’re about to do so.

                        https://aje.io/f4w0aa?update=3858483

                        Edit: found the original Reuters report https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/frustration-gaza-alarm-drove-macron-go-it-alone-palestine-recognition-2025-07-26/

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                        • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                          Someone explain this to me: https://iris.org.il/images/israel-and-arab-world.gif

                          All the countries in yellow are Arab.

                          The little tiny slice in the middle in blue is Jewish and in that blue even the West Bank and Gaza are part of that blue island and are mostly occupied by the Arabs.

                          And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.

                          Why? Why is not the 99% of that land that belongs to the Arabs not enough for them?

                          Where are the Jews supposed to go?

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                          patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                          The Palestinian people have a right to self-determination.

                          Go deny genocide and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights somewhere else.

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                          • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                            The Palestinian people have a right to self-determination.

                            Go deny genocide and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights somewhere else.

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                            lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                            Whoa. Whose denying anything? I’m asking questions.

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                              Whoa. Whose denying anything? I’m asking questions.

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                              patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                              You know exactly what you’re doing. Go away. Genocide denial not welcome here.

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                                • This article is originally by Middle East Monitor, Republished here under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.

                                Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

                                In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

                                The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

                                Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

                                In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

                                Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

                                Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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                                canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                Wait, where does he say he’s recognising Palestine?

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                                  Wait, where does he say he’s recognising Palestine?

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                                  loonsun@sh.itjust.works
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                                  The last paragraph, he starts the paragraph saying the official government stance is the two state solution and sovereignty of Palestine

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                                    • This article is originally by Middle East Monitor, Republished here under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.

                                    Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

                                    In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

                                    The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

                                    Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

                                    In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

                                    Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

                                    Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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                                    hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                                    Anthony Housefather will be very upset.

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                                      • This article is originally by Middle East Monitor, Republished here under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.

                                      Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

                                      In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

                                      The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

                                      Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

                                      In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

                                      Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

                                      Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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                                      gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com
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                                      This dosent change jack shit. UN memberships have to be approved by all the perminent members of the security council and the US is a perminent member of said council. And in the UN the US always does what Israel tells them to.

                                      If I remember correctly last year there was a vote on palistine becoming a member and the only countires that voted no was the US and Israel but palistine is still not a member because Israel told the US to block it.

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                                      • L loonsun@sh.itjust.works

                                        The last paragraph, he starts the paragraph saying the official government stance is the two state solution and sovereignty of Palestine

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                                        festus@lemmy.ca
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                                        That’s been the official position forever. Canada wants a Palestinian state, but it’s not recognizing one yet. Basically they put out a nothing statement and people are thinking it’s something new.

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                                          Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

                                          In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

                                          The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

                                          Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

                                          In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

                                          Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

                                          Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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                                          60d@lemmy.ca
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                                          The craziest thing about Carney is that he’s plotting to defund the CBC by 15%, according to https://thedeepdive.ca/carneys-spending-review-order-makes-cbc-brace-for-15-budget-cut/

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