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  • notsureN notsure

    …which semites are you anti?.. /s

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    You can’t be anti-semitic to non-semites

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    • gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.comG gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com

      This dosent change jack shit. UN memberships have to be approved by all the perminent members of the security council and the US is a perminent member of said council. And in the UN the US always does what Israel tells them to.

      If I remember correctly last year there was a vote on palistine becoming a member and the only countires that voted no was the US and Israel but palistine is still not a member because Israel told the US to block it.

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      nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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      Then we should sanction the us

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        • This article is originally by Middle East Monitor, Republished here under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.

        Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

        In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

        The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

        Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

        In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

        Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

        Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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        nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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        Recognize hamas

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        • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

          Someone explain this to me: https://iris.org.il/images/israel-and-arab-world.gif

          All the countries in yellow are Arab.

          The little tiny slice in the middle in blue is Jewish and in that blue even the West Bank and Gaza are part of that blue island and are mostly occupied by the Arabs.

          And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.

          Why? Why is not the 99% of that land that belongs to the Arabs not enough for them?

          Where are the Jews supposed to go?

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          nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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          “Arabs” aren’t an uniform entity.

          Would you go explain a guy in vancouver that we bombed your house because Canada have all the land from Nova Scotia to alaska? What a shit excuse to defend population forced departure.

          Why don’t you give back some land to the miqmaqs

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          • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

            Someone explain this to me: https://iris.org.il/images/israel-and-arab-world.gif

            All the countries in yellow are Arab.

            The little tiny slice in the middle in blue is Jewish and in that blue even the West Bank and Gaza are part of that blue island and are mostly occupied by the Arabs.

            And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.

            Why? Why is not the 99% of that land that belongs to the Arabs not enough for them?

            Where are the Jews supposed to go?

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            nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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            And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.

            Oh I don’t know maybe it’s all the war crimes, bombing of civilians, spoilation and forced deportation?

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            • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

              I dunno but they did. Probably so the Nazis wouldn’t hunt them down and exterminate them all like they tried to do in the 40s?

              Why shouldnt they have their own country?

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              nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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              Zionists are the rich jews who paid the nazis to let them go and kill their fellow poor jews instead.

              You literally agrees with the nazis about jews not belonging in Europe lmao

              Why shouldnt they have their own country?

              Because when they did they used it to bomb civilians for decades

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              • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                So where were they supposed to go after the Nazis tried to eliminate them? They dont have ancestral or religious ties to other European lands or America or Canada or Australia or Asia or Africa so where?

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                nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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                #69

                Maybe the allied should have given them some sort citizenship instead of treating Holocaust survivors as alien immigrants. They were literally expelled by the allies lmao

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                • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                  Do they not have historical and religious connections to the land of Israel with roots dating back thousands of years?

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                  nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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                  How is it an excuse to bomb people asshole?

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                  • K Kobek

                    Ask the bigger questions. Like why is this conflict so important to people compared to the other hudrends of conflicts currently going on that no one talks about?

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                    nomorediotz@thelemmy.club
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                    Funny how you suddenly care about “other conflicts” suddenly when we talk about the conflict you don’t like.

                    Kinda like you suddenly care a lot about women’s right when it comes to bombing arabs

                    Kinda like you suddenly care a lot about gay rights when it comes to bombing iran

                    You’re transparent af

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                      Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

                      In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

                      The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

                      Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

                      In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

                      Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

                      Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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                      saleh@feddit.org
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                      I am sorry, but nowhere does he say that.

                      The “we want a two state solution, but wont recognize a palestinian state until Israel agrees to it” has been the modus operandi of many Genocide supporting countries. They know Israel wont ever agree to it while they reject putting actual pressure on the Zionist project.

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                      • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                        You know exactly what you’re doing. Go away. Genocide denial not welcome here.

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                        lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                        Im asking legitimate questions trying to understand an international crisis. Youre making massive assumptions based on your own prejudice.

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                        • V Victor Villas

                          some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth. Why?

                          I don’t know if you’ll find devil advocates willing to entertain such a hyperbolic frame of reference.

                          There are people out there who also think that Arabs should be wiped off the earth, but I don’t think it’s worth asking why. Makes more sense to shun those people off than giving them space for discourse.

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                          lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                          Iran hasn’t said that Jews should be wiped off the face of the earth? One quick google says otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran

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                          • acargitzT acargitz

                            Canadian Jews have a safe, democratic country that cherishes them and wants them to thrive and that country is called Canada.

                            If you’re asking about Israeli Jews, your answer is the same in principle as for any other ethno-religious group in the Levant (Druze, Maronite, Sunni, Antiochian, Alawite, Shia, Beduin, Kurdish etc). There is nothing cosmically special or exceptional about Jewish people, as there is nothing cosmically special or exceptional about Alewites. To claim so would be pure antisemitism. So what should they do? Play nice with the other communities, and build a plurinational, inclusive democratic state with equal rights for all people of all and of no sects. The Jews don’t deserve anything more or anything less than any other levantine ethnicity/religious group. Human Rights and Democracy for all.

                            Edit: or some sort of balkanization I guess. Small homegeneous statelets at the mercy of bigger powers. Meh. Democracy is better.

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                            lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                            Thank you for a civilized and reasonable answer. There are some other small brained, rabid respondents here who could learn from you.

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                            • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                              Do they not have historical and religious connections to the land of Israel with roots dating back thousands of years?

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                              mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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                              They have a historical religious connection to a land from thousands of years and want the right to return there but don’t believe the people that live there currently in Gaza and as refugees around the world have the right to return to their homeland, some literally have deeds for homes that Jewish settlers moved into after their families were forced out in the Naqba.

                              I would dispute that they have a DNA connection to that actual land as the Israeli govt has issues with Jewish people taking DNA tests because they are likely to show no DNA connection to historic Palestine and mostly connection to Europe and Russia.

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                              • L lovecanada@lemmy.ca

                                Im asking legitimate questions trying to understand an international crisis. Youre making massive assumptions based on your own prejudice.

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                                leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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                                Do you people still think “I’m asking questions” isn’t transparent af?

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                                • S saleh@feddit.org

                                  I am sorry, but nowhere does he say that.

                                  The “we want a two state solution, but wont recognize a palestinian state until Israel agrees to it” has been the modus operandi of many Genocide supporting countries. They know Israel wont ever agree to it while they reject putting actual pressure on the Zionist project.

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                                  fleur_@aussie.zone
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                                  “Canada supports a two state solution”

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                                  • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                                    Wait, where does he say he’s recognising Palestine?

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                                    fleur_@aussie.zone
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                                    “Canada supports a two state solution”

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                                    • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works

                                      Hmm… I’m not actually seeing anything here that indicates an immediate plan to recognize Palestine as a state. Canada has been a supporter of a two state solution for a long time, but that’s only a commitment to working towards Palestine becoming a state, it doesn’t immediately imply that they’ll follow in France’s steps and immediately recognize Palestine as a state. The article offers no further evidence for the claim.

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                                      fleur_@aussie.zone
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                                      “Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week”

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                                      • O outlierblue@lemmy.ca

                                        How brave of them to make a statement, with no plans, goals, or commitments, after the entire region has already been flattened and its people murdered or starved.

                                        This is leadership? Fuck that.

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                                        fleur_@aussie.zone
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                                        “Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week”

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                                          • This article is originally by Middle East Monitor, Republished here under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.

                                          Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

                                          In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

                                          The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

                                          Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

                                          In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

                                          Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

                                          Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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                                          fleur_@aussie.zone
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                                          There’s a lot of comments in this thread, with a LOT of up votes, claiming this is a nothing burger and isn’t actually a change in Canadian foreign policy. I understand being annoyed at slow progress that should’ve happened long ago but claiming this is actually bad for Palestine is disingenuous.

                                          Canada has never recognised a Palestinian government other than the Palestinian Authority (PA) which is an Israeli organisation set up to represent Palestine on behalf of Israel. Here they are clearly starting they have intention to do so which most likely will be the State of Palestine which is a Palestinian organisation that currently receives the most recognition in the United nations general Assembly.

                                          Here they have declared their intent:

                                          “Canada supports a two-state solution”

                                          Here they have declared their current plans regarding recognition:

                                          “Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.”

                                          Here Isreal have denounced the move by Canada:

                                          “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move,”

                                          Here Hamas has declared support for similar plans for recognition that France has made:

                                          “Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people”

                                          If I were a paranoid person I’d say that the comments declaring Canada’s plan to recognise Palestine are futile and meaningless are pro Israeli propaganda planted to look like a pro Palestinian stance. And when it comes to discussions about Israel online, I am very paranoid.

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