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How far-right ideas in Canada are working their way into mainstream politics

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    Recent developments in the Canadian far-right movements raise concerns about the political implications as the far right moves mainstream.

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      Pierre would have won if Trump didn’t tilt the scales, because we have had the second to last performance on a per capita basis in the OECD since 2015, arguably the Liberals have been a blight on Canada.

      You can say you like Carney as an obviously smart guy, but the rest of the party is not something to be celebrated, Freeland is already back to not answering a single question to Vassy.

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        Pierre would have won if Trump didn’t tilt the scales, because we have had the second to last performance on a per capita basis in the OECD since 2015, arguably the Liberals have been a blight on Canada.

        You can say you like Carney as an obviously smart guy, but the rest of the party is not something to be celebrated, Freeland is already back to not answering a single question to Vassy.

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        Yeah we dodged a bullet there. Shame it was at the expense of the Americans.

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          In the lead-up to his 2025 campaign, Poilievre repeatedly called Canada “broken.”. He cited increased crime, addiction, high grocery prices and more as evidence of Canada’s brokenness

          This buries the lede: before Carney got the Trump bump, there was a bunch of legitimate complaints about the skyrocketing cost of living, increases in homelessness, and availability of healthcare. Poilievre was definitely stoking and using it to his advantage, but the problems existed and persist.

          It’s an incredible shame that other parties didn’t pick up on the public sentiment and provide constructive policies to address the problems.

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            In the lead-up to his 2025 campaign, Poilievre repeatedly called Canada “broken.”. He cited increased crime, addiction, high grocery prices and more as evidence of Canada’s brokenness

            This buries the lede: before Carney got the Trump bump, there was a bunch of legitimate complaints about the skyrocketing cost of living, increases in homelessness, and availability of healthcare. Poilievre was definitely stoking and using it to his advantage, but the problems existed and persist.

            It’s an incredible shame that other parties didn’t pick up on the public sentiment and provide constructive policies to address the problems.

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            If you don’t think they all talked about those problems, you weren’t listening. The difference was which party’s solution was believable. In my mind none of them were good enough, but Pierre’s ideas were particularly terrible. He would have DOGEd his way to a solution.

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              bowreality@lemmy.ca
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              Grocery prices would not be something PP is fixing. His campaign manager is in bed with Loblaws. They are the biggest offenders on the gouging.

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                If you don’t think they all talked about those problems, you weren’t listening. The difference was which party’s solution was believable. In my mind none of them were good enough, but Pierre’s ideas were particularly terrible. He would have DOGEd his way to a solution.

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                The other parties “talked about those problems” but they weren’t able to focus public anger like the Conservatives did. None of them have provided policy proposals to quickly address the cost of living crisis.

                The Conservatives ran with cost-of-living issues after the Pandemic restrictions eased - so late 2022 or 2023, I think. They showed potential voters that they understood that prices were rising, and that Canadians were hurting. The Liberals initially dismissed concerns (IIRC Freeland or Trudeau said something about vibes vs. the GDP), and didn’t really start moving on it until 2024ish; but they couldn’t shake the credibility problem. I’m not really sure where the NDP were - I think they were focusing on the supply and confidence concessions. I’m not aware of messaging from the Bloc or Greens that got consistent coverage.

                Of the five, only the Conservatives were effective in that messaging. This is Lemmy, so I have to say that I’m not a Conservative, but I can appreciate that they did an excellent job understanding the public sentiment and speaking to it. The other parties did not.

                There weren’t many policy proposals before the election - certainly nothing that changed public perception or meaningfully pushed prices down. The policies from the Liberals focused on the supply side by providing improvements to the development process (and maybe some loans?), while the Conservatives proposed doing something similar, but on a more limited basis (?!). They were insufficient. And yes, I’m focusing on housing, because that’s what I’ve been following.

                During the election, the Liberal housing proposal was more grounded, but it didn’t address how the country will reach the goal of 500k starts/year (other than loans and factories), nor does it provide a goal for housing costs. The Conservative proposal was undeniably worse, since it didn’t provide a mechanism to reach their much more aggressive goal.

                I’m fully on board the Conservatives-bad bandwagon, but it really doesn’t make sense to

                1. ignore the cost of living issues that many of us are facing,
                2. pretend that the CPC/Poilievre didn’t do an excellent job of parlaying anger about cost of living into votes,
                3. credit the other parties with addressing cost of living issues in a way that speaks to voters.

                The CPC are doing well because they’re tapping genuine concerns that voters feel on a daily basis (amongst other things). The other parties weren’t doing that, and I don’t see much evidence that they’ll improve. As someone who really doesn’t want the Conservatives to win the next election, I think we need to call out where the other parties are failing so they can get their shit together.

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                  Yeah we dodged a bullet there. Shame it was at the expense of the Americans.

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                  Though Carney is even more conservative than Pierre. His first act was gutting the carbon tax and the generational fairness capital gain taxes, his second act was promoting a housing minister that specifically says housing is an investment.

                  If the NDP wasn’t co-opted by the Mazerati in a Rolex we may have had a shot at someone good, but alas.

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                    Grocery prices would not be something PP is fixing. His campaign manager is in bed with Loblaws. They are the biggest offenders on the gouging.

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                    mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                    I keep hearing this, but how does it jive with the fact that other grocery stores are still more expensive? (although they seem to be closing the gap)

                    For example: Hawkin’s cheezies, 420g:

                    Safeway - $8

                    No Frills - $6

                    Wholesale Club - $5

                    That’s the only example I have off the top of my head because I’ve been eating so many cheezies lately. Sobeys, Safeway, and Save-on are all still more expensive on 90+% of items.

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