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Canadians in ICE detention centres left in legal limbo as families try to secure release

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  • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

    Why on earth are Canadians STILL in the States? Get out of there! Like, WTF are you doing? You are in a HOSTILE country, and you will not have a good time there.

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    garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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    Most of the people I know that are still going down there tend to be wealthier. I think it’s something about them thinking the money will protect them?

    I have a canadian-salvadoran coworker who just went down there to visit family, like are you fucking insane.

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    • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

      Why on earth are Canadians STILL in the States? Get out of there! Like, WTF are you doing? You are in a HOSTILE country, and you will not have a good time there.

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      wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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      Unfortunately some of us have family there, and while it’s easy to think “well fuck it I won’t go visit”, it’s not always so easy. Family gets sick, dies, etc.

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      • W wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works

        Unfortunately some of us have family there, and while it’s easy to think “well fuck it I won’t go visit”, it’s not always so easy. Family gets sick, dies, etc.

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        showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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        I totally get that, but it’s still a massive risk. Going to see your sick family member might mean you’ll be held in a detention center. Is it really worth it?

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        • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

          I totally get that, but it’s still a massive risk. Going to see your sick family member might mean you’ll be held in a detention center. Is it really worth it?

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          wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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          Yeah I’ll let pop pop die alone in the hospital, you’re right.

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          • W wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works

            Yeah I’ll let pop pop die alone in the hospital, you’re right.

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            showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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            Would you rather pop die alone in the hospital knowing that you’re in a concentration camp? Come on man, think.

            They are treating ordinary Canadian citizens as criminals. It will be a risk. And if you’re willing to take that risk, you have to be willing to take the consequences that are pretty much well known at this point.

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            • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

              Most of the people I know that are still going down there tend to be wealthier. I think it’s something about them thinking the money will protect them?

              I have a canadian-salvadoran coworker who just went down there to visit family, like are you fucking insane.

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              xthexder@l.sw0.com
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              to visit family

              People will go through a lot to be with family, it doesn’t really matter how dangerous crossing the border is if that’s the only way you’ll see them again.

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              • R Rentlar

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                Legal experts are concerned that immigration judges with only six weeks of training will not uphold constitutional protections for migrants.

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                amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                thanks for sharing. what I’m getting from this is that they’re deputizing state cops to act as meat shields for the feds in case the affected people look for someone to target in retaliation.

                I’m not implying this goes against local state ideology, just that the federal government is standardizing the party line.

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                • D decapitae@sh.itjust.works

                  Nazis don’t use science. They make up propoganda to appeal to the baser instincts of easily inflamed and manipulatable psyche’s to enact violence and instill fear in the public. The paradox of intolerance is in argument alone, as after the instigating act of violence from the opressor - the resulting violence is self defense. This is what fascists like, because they are quick to anger and violence. They lie in wait to shed blood. Their haughty eyes seek opportunity to sew more discord in peaceful communities. They lie in order to facilitate more of their own ways.

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                  amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  #32

                  you realize that fascists are rejoicing whenever their alleged enemies make the unfounded claim that fascism is a result of intellectual disability?

                  degenerate is a term that only race scientists use unironically

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                  • V Concetta

                    Olvera — a third-generation American whose family immigrated from Mexico — said he typically votes Democrat but voted for Trump in November because he wanted a change. Now he appears to be questioning that decision.

                    As bad as I genuinely feel for these people, are you fucking kidding me.

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                    bowreality@lemmy.ca
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                    #33

                    These stories just boggle my mind. There was one of a woman who had an illegal immigrant as a husband. She still supports Trump even after he had been detained and she doesn’t even know where he is and if she will ever see him again 🤨😳

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                    • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

                      Would you rather pop die alone in the hospital knowing that you’re in a concentration camp? Come on man, think.

                      They are treating ordinary Canadian citizens as criminals. It will be a risk. And if you’re willing to take that risk, you have to be willing to take the consequences that are pretty much well known at this point.

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                      wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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                      Yeah, I know what I’m risking. Go touch grass and learn how to grow some fucking and empathy for people.

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                      • W wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works

                        Yeah, I know what I’m risking. Go touch grass and learn how to grow some fucking and empathy for people.

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                        showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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                        #35

                        I don’t know if you’re being serious or not, but I can’t imagine doing something, knowingly, that would cause emotional distress to a loved one.

                        You have to consider the effort that someone else in your family will have to go through in order to attempt to get you freed from a country under a hostile dictatorship.

                        Again, perhaps this is worth the risk. I wouldn’t want any of my family travelling anywhere to see me, if it puts their life or freedom at risk. This isn’t a movie.

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                        • O outlierblue@lemmy.ca

                          And yet the Canadian government still hasn’t put out any warnings not to travel to the Fascist States of America.

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                          bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                          There was an announcement on the website, just a mild warning that safety could not be guaranteed. Around this time. https://ctcnews.ca/2025/04/07/canada-us-travel-advisory-april-2025/

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                          • G garbagebagel@lemmy.world

                            Oh wow wtf I could’ve sworn we had. I just looked it up and it seems like the US are the ones that issued a travel warning against people coming to Canada. What a fucking joke.

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                            bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                            #37

                            There was a mild travel warning, it said safety could not be guaranteed, but didn’t say don’t travel, just suggested making other arrangements, and that they couldn’t interfere on your behalf. https://ctcnews.ca/2025/04/07/canada-us-travel-advisory-april-2025/

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                            • A amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                              you realize that fascists are rejoicing whenever their alleged enemies make the unfounded claim that fascism is a result of intellectual disability?

                              degenerate is a term that only race scientists use unironically

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                              decapitae@sh.itjust.works
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                              Language lives. Take it back from those who would use it for inequality, hate and opression. Use it to fight the real criminals perpetrating human rights crimes.

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                                decapitae@sh.itjust.works
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                                Also, ideological disability is different from intellectual disability. Naziism is an ideologically flawed perspective. Many intelligent people have been convinced of its efficacy - to the detriment of all.

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                                • O outlierblue@lemmy.ca

                                  And yet the Canadian government still hasn’t put out any warnings not to travel to the Fascist States of America.

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                                  What can we do to pressure the government into updating its travel advisory to the states?

                                  Germany and the UK literally have a higher degree of caution listed, which is kinda insane.

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