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Why did U.S. — not Canadian — fighter jets respond to alleged hijacking of B.C. plane?

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  • R randalthor@lemmy.ca

    So I wonder why we don’t have an air base in BC.

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    Underfreyja
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    For real, it’s a bit insane that there’s no air base on our country’s border… Makes you wonder what would happen if we were attacked…

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    • R randalthor@lemmy.ca

      So I wonder why we don’t have an air base in BC.

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      arkouda@lemmy.ca
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      Lack of Military funding. Nothing to wonder about.

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        For real, it’s a bit insane that there’s no air base on our country’s border… Makes you wonder what would happen if we were attacked…

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        sgforce@lemmy.ca
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        By who, Alaska? Anything else will be spotted hours before they show up or be so much more of a problem (like a fleet of submarines) that a base or too closer to shore is pointless.

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        • R randalthor@lemmy.ca

          So I wonder why we don’t have an air base in BC.

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          CFB Comox is located on Vancouver Island.

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          • S sgforce@lemmy.ca

            By who, Alaska? Anything else will be spotted hours before they show up or be so much more of a problem (like a fleet of submarines) that a base or too closer to shore is pointless.

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            Yeah, the most imminent air threat has historically been over the pole, which is why CFB Cold Lake exists.

            The squadrons on Vancouver Island are for surveillance and search-and-rescue, which is entirely sensible for the coast.

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              CFB Comox is located on Vancouver Island.

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              snoons@lemmy.ca
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              IIRC it’s mainly used for search and rescue.

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              • S snoons@lemmy.ca

                IIRC it’s mainly used for search and rescue.

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                As I said downthread, that’s a very sensible use of a coastal air force base.

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                  As I said downthread, that’s a very sensible use of a coastal air force base.

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                  snoons@lemmy.ca
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                  Truly lol. AFAIK Cold Lake is the main ‘combat’ airbase.

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                  • U Underfreyja

                    For real, it’s a bit insane that there’s no air base on our country’s border… Makes you wonder what would happen if we were attacked…

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                    reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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                    NORAD was supposed to protect us, we just never could have guessed it would have been the US attacking us.

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                      CFB Comox is located on Vancouver Island.

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                      randalthor@lemmy.ca
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                      True, though it doesn’t base F18s for this kind of mission.

                      CFB Comox is the RCAF’s primary air defence installation on Canada’s Pacific coast and serves as the home base for maritime patrol / anti-submarine aircraft and search and rescue (SAR) aircraft, both fixed-wing and rotary-wing .

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                      • R randalthor@lemmy.ca

                        True, though it doesn’t base F18s for this kind of mission.

                        CFB Comox is the RCAF’s primary air defence installation on Canada’s Pacific coast and serves as the home base for maritime patrol / anti-submarine aircraft and search and rescue (SAR) aircraft, both fixed-wing and rotary-wing .

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                        I was mainly responding to the claim that there’s no base, but I really don’t see the value in stationing a combat squadron there.

                        In the case of an actual foreign invasion, there would be enough time to redeploy from elsewhere.

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                          Yeah, the most imminent air threat has historically been over the pole, which is why CFB Cold Lake exists.

                          The squadrons on Vancouver Island are for surveillance and search-and-rescue, which is entirely sensible for the coast.

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                          randalthor@lemmy.ca
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                          My guess is US air bases in Washington were closer to Vancouver so Norad activated their combat aircraft. I think this shows how tightly integrated US and Canadian air defenses are. I think we better draw up some plans in case US becomes the enemy.

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                          • R randalthor@lemmy.ca

                            My guess is US air bases in Washington were closer to Vancouver so Norad activated their combat aircraft. I think this shows how tightly integrated US and Canadian air defenses are. I think we better draw up some plans in case US becomes the enemy.

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                            It’s definitely a case of NORAD working as designed. Which is good!

                            The fact that we’re borderline amazed that it’s working as designed is much less good.

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                              Yeah, the most imminent air threat has historically been over the pole, which is why CFB Cold Lake exists.

                              The squadrons on Vancouver Island are for surveillance and search-and-rescue, which is entirely sensible for the coast.

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                              windex007@lemmy.world
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                              CFB Cold Lake also has the CLAWR which is the kind of thing you can’t just slap anywhere.

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                              • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

                                NORAD was supposed to protect us, we just never could have guessed it would have been the US attacking us.

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                                n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
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                                NORAD was about keeping Canada from developing our own fighter jets and becoming independant from the US military.

                                Amerika was afraid of the AV Roe Arrow and the chinook engines as they were better than anything the US could even think of. The F-22 took lots of inspiration fron the Arrow

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                                  It’s definitely a case of NORAD working as designed. Which is good!

                                  The fact that we’re borderline amazed that it’s working as designed is much less good.

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                                  Em Adespoton
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                                  And worried about the fact that NORAD won’t protect us from NORAD members.

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                                    lefantome@programming.dev
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                                    NORAD (North American Air Defence) does not differentiate.

                                    The closest NORAD jets were in Washington State. It is not complicated.

                                    The same thing could happen in reverse.

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                                    • N n3m37h@sh.itjust.works

                                      NORAD was about keeping Canada from developing our own fighter jets and becoming independant from the US military.

                                      Amerika was afraid of the AV Roe Arrow and the chinook engines as they were better than anything the US could even think of. The F-22 took lots of inspiration fron the Arrow

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                                      mysterioussophon21@lemmy.world
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                                      The Arrow was definitely ahead of its time, but the F-22 actually evolved from the Air Force’s Advanced Tactical Fighter program in the 1980s with completley different design requirements than the Arrow’s interceptor role from the 50’s.

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