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Alberta's measles outbreaks surpass case counts reported for entire US

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  • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

    “As an infectious diseases specialist I never would have guessed this was going to happen because measles is supposed to be eradicated.”

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    lushed_lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    The “Alberta Advantage” in action folks!

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    • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

      “As an infectious diseases specialist I never would have guessed this was going to happen because measles is supposed to be eradicated.”

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      sbv@sh.itjust.works
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      Ugh. I really wish they’d say who is getting infected and why they aren’t vaccinated. Not because I want to stigmatize the group, but so we can fucking understand why public health seems to be falling apart.

      In Ontario, many of the measles sufferers were Mennonites who refused vaccination before it was cool. Is that the case in Alberta?

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      • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

        “As an infectious diseases specialist I never would have guessed this was going to happen because measles is supposed to be eradicated.”

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        dwz@lemmy.world
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        Alberta has the single worst premier in Canada

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        Smith apologizes for comparing vaccinated Albertans to followers of Hitler

        Danielle Smith is apologizing for "any offensive language" she used in her previous career as a talk-show host and podcaster while comparing vaccinated Albertans with followers of Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany.

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        Justin Trudeau sacrificed political capital for Alberta. He opened a brand new pipeline. Under his mandate, Alberta oil production reached the highest level in HISTORY:

        👉 https://www.statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/7940-another-record-year-canadian-crude-oil-crude-oil-year-review-2024

        He was rewarded with nothing but contempt and lies:

        I may disagree with Trudeau on plenty of things, but claiming he was anti-Alberta is a shameless lie.

        In January 2025, Smith was the only Premier who REFUSED to sign a joint declaration, saying Canada will hit back if it faces economic bullying:

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        Ford says Canada must come first as Smith breaks with premiers on Trump retaliation | CBC News

        Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Wednesday the country's leaders must put Canada first and forcefully hit back against president-elect Donald Trump if he goes ahead with punishing tariffs on all of our goods while also singling out Alberta Premier Danielle Smith for her reluctance to go all-in on retaliation.

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        On March 20, 2025, she gave an interview to Breitbart in which she said the United States should temporarily pause tariffs in order to help Pierre Poilievre:

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        ‘Let’s just put things on pause': Alberta premier under fire for Breitbart interview

        Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is under fire for an interview she did Mar. 8 with Breitbart in the U.S. over controversial remarks that appear to suggest she asked the Trump administration to lay off their tariff threats until after a Canadian federal election in the hopes of seeing Pierre Pollievre and the Conservatives elected.

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        Smith sickens me. In the military, this is the kind of officers who always end up shot by their own troops.

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        • L lushed_lungfish@lemmy.ca

          The “Alberta Advantage” in action folks!

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          reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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          Small pox has entered the chat!

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          • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

            Small pox has entered the chat!

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            hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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            Polio is waiting in the wings for its turn to shine.

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            • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

              Ugh. I really wish they’d say who is getting infected and why they aren’t vaccinated. Not because I want to stigmatize the group, but so we can fucking understand why public health seems to be falling apart.

              In Ontario, many of the measles sufferers were Mennonites who refused vaccination before it was cool. Is that the case in Alberta?

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              walktheplank@lemmy.world
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              Almost assuredly the majority are in that community. There is a very large Mennonite presence in Alberta. They are connected to the other Canadian, American and Mexican Mennonite communities as many are intermarried and related and travel between communities is very common. They have all derived from the original community in Mexico.

              That being said, I lived in Alberta for 20 years and worked as a paramedic there for much of that time. There is a vast population of people who believed all that 2000’s bullshit about vaccinations and autism and many never had their kids vaccinated, I can only assume that has continued through COVID shots as well. Thousands of families at least. It was very common so I imagine it has also spread outside those communities and if it hasn’t it will very soon.

              With the traitor tyrant in charge over there now it’s only going to get worse.

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              • W walktheplank@lemmy.world

                Almost assuredly the majority are in that community. There is a very large Mennonite presence in Alberta. They are connected to the other Canadian, American and Mexican Mennonite communities as many are intermarried and related and travel between communities is very common. They have all derived from the original community in Mexico.

                That being said, I lived in Alberta for 20 years and worked as a paramedic there for much of that time. There is a vast population of people who believed all that 2000’s bullshit about vaccinations and autism and many never had their kids vaccinated, I can only assume that has continued through COVID shots as well. Thousands of families at least. It was very common so I imagine it has also spread outside those communities and if it hasn’t it will very soon.

                With the traitor tyrant in charge over there now it’s only going to get worse.

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                CanadaRocks
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                Conservative religious groups, and Mennonites are part of that, already have a strong distrust of government. They were targeted, ridiculed and ostracized when the covid vaccines came out and that did nothing to reassure them that the gov is looking out for their best interest, so this latest outbreak isn’t going to make them suddenly swing toward being pro vaccines. If anything they’re going to pull back even more which is why we have such a huge measles outbreak. Its not going to change easily as the mistrust runs deep.

                And its no wonder - there were Amish people (a related group) who were charged for not getting a covid vaccine passport and had to go to court to argue that their faith doesnt allow them to use that kind of technology. They DID win their case and the charges were dropped but once again the distrust in gov grows.

                ps. Just a correction but the Mennonites actually came from Europe, followers of Menno Simons who who was a former Catholic priest who was excommunicated for his reformational ideas. We settled in Mexico, the US and Canada after running from persecution so this mistrust in gov is a deeply held part of culture. Some Mennos are still quite conservative, others are quite liberal and you couldn’t tell them from any other Canadian.

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                • W walktheplank@lemmy.world

                  Almost assuredly the majority are in that community. There is a very large Mennonite presence in Alberta. They are connected to the other Canadian, American and Mexican Mennonite communities as many are intermarried and related and travel between communities is very common. They have all derived from the original community in Mexico.

                  That being said, I lived in Alberta for 20 years and worked as a paramedic there for much of that time. There is a vast population of people who believed all that 2000’s bullshit about vaccinations and autism and many never had their kids vaccinated, I can only assume that has continued through COVID shots as well. Thousands of families at least. It was very common so I imagine it has also spread outside those communities and if it hasn’t it will very soon.

                  With the traitor tyrant in charge over there now it’s only going to get worse.

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                  faxed@lemmy.ca
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                  the 90s/2000s antivax is now in the second generation

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                  • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

                    “As an infectious diseases specialist I never would have guessed this was going to happen because measles is supposed to be eradicated.”

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                    mintiefresh
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                    FML. Send help.

                    I hate this provincial govt so much.

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                    • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

                      “As an infectious diseases specialist I never would have guessed this was going to happen because measles is supposed to be eradicated.”

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                      reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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                      I am in Saskatchewan and have been fully vaccinated but I am sure Saskatchewan is not far behind.

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