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This is absolutely disgusting. Parliament gives another standing ovation for a Nazi.

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    hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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    God fucking damn it.

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      but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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      The moment poilievre made his return the racism immediately ramped up. He starated with the immigration right away, the next week we had racists in Toronto protesting against “immigration” we know they mean non white people since the entire crowd was whiter than a January morning.

      And Alberta is now putting citizenship status on drivers licenses to make it easier for their hick cops to profile people.

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        ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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        And our enemy, anyone clapping should be arrested.

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          Daniel Quinn
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          Was it everyone? Do we have any information on whether there were any sensible people refusing to take part in this?

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            mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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            jesus fucking christ, they honoured a nazi-supporting american second tier political figure in parliament? not appropriate

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              surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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              The last time they gave a Nazi a standing ovation, Chrystia Freeland aggressively pushed back against any calls to investigate how many Nazis Canada had harbored, and worked to thoroughly bury the story. And this wasn’t even her first Nazi scandal.

              If the government tries to stop people from investigating Nazis (including your “left” party), it’s infested with Nazis.

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              • rozodruR rozodru

                As a Canadian…yeah this doesn’t surprise me. I mean the House of Commons is just one big dog and pony show. nothing gets done during these sessions, it’s just political theatre to get sound bites on the CBC.

                I honestly don’t know any Canadian that actually watches these. It’s just a massive circle jerk only for the politicians sitting in that room.

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                Jerkface (any/all)
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                I don’t know any Canadian who watches criminal trials, either, but that’s not an argument that they don’t get things done. I’ve only watched one inquest in my entire life. I’ve watched dozens of baseball games (though not in the last 30 years). Doesn’t mean anything.

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                • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyzS sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz

                  Alberta is so fucking weird man. Conservative as hell, but also has the most secure NDP federal seat in all of Canada (Edmonton-Strathcona) since like 2008. The rural-urban divide in Western Canada is honestly crazy when you get down to the nitty gritty of it.

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                  Jerkface (any/all)
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                  #30

                  Labour politics are not incompatible with conservatism! Wab Kinew is an Indigenous person leading the province probably most racist against First Peoples, and he’s the most popular Premier in Canada. If people would get over the propaganda it doesn’t take long to start remembering why the NDP has been one of the most effective and beneficial political forces of the last 100 years, all despite never forming a federal government.

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                    anachronist@midwest.social
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                    Time for Canadians to wake up to the fact that their politicians are all trained seals answering to Washington?

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                      quick_snail@feddit.nl
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                      We need names.

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                      • N njm1314@lemmy.world

                        It’s just interesting because they don’t honor the three children killed in the school shooting the same day. So clearly they’re not speaking out against gun violence or uttering victims of gun violence. Otherwise they’d honor them too. So I can only conclude by doing this they are explicitly endorsing Charlie Kirk’s rhetoric. Everyone that stood up and clapped agrees with Charlie Kirk 100%. That’s the only conclusion

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                        lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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                        #33

                        I don’t think this information is accurate. As far as I can tell, two children were shot (wounded) and the shooter committed suicide.

                        Still a way, way larger tragedy than a racist dying, though.

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                          We need names.

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                          ragingrobot@lemmy.world
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                          We should make a list of all the people in the radical right.

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                            I really wanted to move from America to Canada…not anymore it seems. 😞

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                            asg101@lemmy.ca
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                            Not going bankrupt for getting sick is worth it in itself.

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                            • S surph_ninja@lemmy.world

                              The last time they gave a Nazi a standing ovation, Chrystia Freeland aggressively pushed back against any calls to investigate how many Nazis Canada had harbored, and worked to thoroughly bury the story. And this wasn’t even her first Nazi scandal.

                              If the government tries to stop people from investigating Nazis (including your “left” party), it’s infested with Nazis.

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                              hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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                              That’s not true. These types of investigations basically hand over tons of political power to your opponent. Anything discovered can be implied to be the government’s fault, and if little is found then it’s the government wasting money.

                              We don’t have the required refinement in the media and the political engagement of the average citizen to effectively use these kinds of investigations.

                              Leveraging this type of investigation is part of how Stephen Harper best Paul Martin.

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                                That’s not true. These types of investigations basically hand over tons of political power to your opponent. Anything discovered can be implied to be the government’s fault, and if little is found then it’s the government wasting money.

                                We don’t have the required refinement in the media and the political engagement of the average citizen to effectively use these kinds of investigations.

                                Leveraging this type of investigation is part of how Stephen Harper best Paul Martin.

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                                surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                                I don’t give a damn if an investigation of government support of Nazis becomes a political setback for liberals.

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                                  excursion22
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                                  Read more than the headline, and social media posts arent news.

                                  Yes, Charlie Kirk’s assassination sparked a conversation about the importance of free speech and disavowing political violence in parliament. The standing ovation was not for Charlie, but for the outcome of that speech.

                                  Still, not very tactful and the speech could’ve definitely been written better to be clear that the call is for defence of free speech and denouncing political violence, rather than support of Kirk.

                                  Video link.

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                                  • S surph_ninja@lemmy.world

                                    I don’t give a damn if an investigation of government support of Nazis becomes a political setback for liberals.

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                                    hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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                                    It’s not whether it becomes a setback for liberals, it’s how much it bolsters neofascist elements in the conservative party.

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                                      It’s not whether it becomes a setback for liberals, it’s how much it bolsters neofascist elements in the conservative party.

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                                      surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                                      So we should protect liberal neofascists against conservative neofascists?

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                                      • S surph_ninja@lemmy.world

                                        So we should protect liberal neofascists against conservative neofascists?

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                                        hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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                                        I don’t know the route to progressive politics in Canada. I used to think that if the conservatives won, people would see how bad it got would help turn the tide left. But that’s not working, the US is a perfect example of that. If you vote neoliberal they pass shitty policies that make people’s lives worse and the people then vote for right wing neofacists. If you vote neofacists you get what you asked for.

                                        I’m politically exhausted, but I know that delaying or ideally preventing neofascist is important to me, even if the only means to do that right now (support neoliberals) is a path to eventual neofacist victory as well.

                                        I now have several queer and trans friends that have moved to Canada because of neofascism in the US making it unsafe for them. Some are even seeking asylum in Canada now. I don’t want Canada to become unfriendly to them. Undermining the Liberals in a way that bolsters the Conservatives will do exactly that.

                                        How do I get the NDP to win or become significant enough to affect the outcome of Canadian politics and move us left? I don’t know but it’s not by giving credence to claims that the Liberals are Nazis. Doing that is just paving the way for PP and neofascism. Doing that will directly harm my queer friends and every other minority group in Canada.

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                                          I don’t know the route to progressive politics in Canada. I used to think that if the conservatives won, people would see how bad it got would help turn the tide left. But that’s not working, the US is a perfect example of that. If you vote neoliberal they pass shitty policies that make people’s lives worse and the people then vote for right wing neofacists. If you vote neofacists you get what you asked for.

                                          I’m politically exhausted, but I know that delaying or ideally preventing neofascist is important to me, even if the only means to do that right now (support neoliberals) is a path to eventual neofacist victory as well.

                                          I now have several queer and trans friends that have moved to Canada because of neofascism in the US making it unsafe for them. Some are even seeking asylum in Canada now. I don’t want Canada to become unfriendly to them. Undermining the Liberals in a way that bolsters the Conservatives will do exactly that.

                                          How do I get the NDP to win or become significant enough to affect the outcome of Canadian politics and move us left? I don’t know but it’s not by giving credence to claims that the Liberals are Nazis. Doing that is just paving the way for PP and neofascism. Doing that will directly harm my queer friends and every other minority group in Canada.

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                                          surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                                          Yeah, if you’re still supporting centrism as an answer to increasing fascism, you’re still not understanding what’s going on and won’t see a clear solution. And your friends obviously haven’t been paying attention to the news in Canada for the past 10 years.

                                          If you really want to understand it, just read Marx.

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