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Prime Minister Mark Carney says Canada will double its non-US exports as Canadians can’t rely on US

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    t00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    We need to, fuck the us

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      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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      Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we’re turned into a mining based economy.

      I’m pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.

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        cygnus@lemmy.ca
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        I’ll believe it when I see it - Carney doesn’t seem to actually have done anything so far.

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        • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

          Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we’re turned into a mining based economy.

          I’m pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.

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          psychonaut@lemmy.ml
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          In many (if not most) sectors the Canadians have already seen a substantial switch to exporting to other regions. That’s why they have not seen a substantive decrease in exports despite the US tariffs. There are several sectors that are being held back because of other trade issues that the government has the ability to resolve and they’ve already been making friendly with several countries they were already having a variety of trade or political conflicts with under the previous government (China/India for instance). So the current administration absolutely has the power to help with this shift, which is economically wise.

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          • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

            Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we’re turned into a mining based economy.

            I’m pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.

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            mrdown@lemmy.world
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            If we fail in implememting old ideas how are we going to succeed in innovation?

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            • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

              Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we’re turned into a mining based economy.

              I’m pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.

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              healthetank@lemmy.ca
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              I mean at the least it looks like we’re taking some steps to avoid the clusterfuck that the USMCA resigning is likely to be by getting ahead of it.

              Its not hard to double exports to other countries when your main trading partner (US) stops taking your stuff. Talking out of my ass, but it seems like doubling exports to other countries wouldn’t be that hard when we wind up having a surplus because US trade dries up. Seems like it’d push prices of our goods lower and hurt Canadians, which is what he seems to be implying to me.

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              • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                I’ll believe it when I see it - Carney doesn’t seem to actually have done anything so far.

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                lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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                He signed a big trade and defense pact with indonesia and a bilateral trade agreement with mexico, partially cutting the us out of north american trade. he’s only been pm for, like, 8 months.

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                • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                  Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we’re turned into a mining based economy.

                  I’m pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.

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                  saigot@lemmy.ca
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                  The details of how it gets accomplished are being released in early November with the budget.

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                  • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                    Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we’re turned into a mining based economy.

                    I’m pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.

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                    lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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                    Canada-indonesia free trade agreement: https://globalnews.ca/news/11449417/canada-indonesia-trade-agreement/

                    Canada-mexico trade agreement without USA: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy8r042nx2o

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                    • H healthetank@lemmy.ca

                      I mean at the least it looks like we’re taking some steps to avoid the clusterfuck that the USMCA resigning is likely to be by getting ahead of it.

                      Its not hard to double exports to other countries when your main trading partner (US) stops taking your stuff. Talking out of my ass, but it seems like doubling exports to other countries wouldn’t be that hard when we wind up having a surplus because US trade dries up. Seems like it’d push prices of our goods lower and hurt Canadians, which is what he seems to be implying to me.

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                      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                      So, you are saying we sold all our possible exports to only the US?

                      Why should Europe import our lumber?

                      Carney is softening us up to the reality that tariffs will last as long as the US wants them to, and there is fuck all he can do about it.

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                      • L lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world

                        Canada-indonesia free trade agreement: https://globalnews.ca/news/11449417/canada-indonesia-trade-agreement/

                        Canada-mexico trade agreement without USA: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy8r042nx2o

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                        savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                        And we had new trade agreements with Europe under Biden.

                        There is nothing really new here.

                        The Indonesia agreement is great for Indonesia, but puts Canada in $600M trade deficits.

                        Both deals are a few percent of US trade.

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                          The details of how it gets accomplished are being released in early November with the budget.

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                          savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                          Why wait until no one can assess the plan or the government falls.

                          Same bullshit as every other government.

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                          • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                            I’ll believe it when I see it - Carney doesn’t seem to actually have done anything so far.

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                            lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                            You seriously think this kind of thing happens overnight?

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                            • L lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world

                              He signed a big trade and defense pact with indonesia and a bilateral trade agreement with mexico, partially cutting the us out of north american trade. he’s only been pm for, like, 8 months.

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                              savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                              Did you actually read the agreement? It leaves Canada in $600M trade deficit. Media loves to skip the details.

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                              • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                Did you actually read the agreement? It leaves Canada in $600M trade deficit. Media loves to skip the details.

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                                FaceDeer
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                                Judging trade deals purely on money in vs. money out is Trump thinking.

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                                • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                  And we had new trade agreements with Europe under Biden.

                                  There is nothing really new here.

                                  The Indonesia agreement is great for Indonesia, but puts Canada in $600M trade deficits.

                                  Both deals are a few percent of US trade.

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                                  indridcold@lemmy.ca
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                                  Both deals are a few percent of US trade.

                                  Every bit counts. I would like to see a future where we aren’t doing any business with the US.

                                  The US is eating it’s own head and will probably fail in the near future. We need to be ready for that.

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                                  • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                    Why wait until no one can assess the plan or the government falls.

                                    Same bullshit as every other government.

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                                    FaceDeer
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                                    The decision of whether the government falls is, in large part, the way the assessment of the budget is expressed.

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                                      dandomrude@lemmy.world
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                                      I just realized that McCain is a Canadian company. Sorry, I’ve been boycotting their fries and stuff for the past few months, but it was a mistake - damn you, John McCain!

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                                      • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                        Why wait until no one can assess the plan or the government falls.

                                        Same bullshit as every other government.

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                                        saigot@lemmy.ca
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                                        How would you like it to go? This is how it is meant to go, politicians announce a goal and a vague direction they want to go in, then table bills with the details filled out, it undergoes several layers of public debate and then it gets voted on.

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                                        • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                          Did you actually read the agreement? It leaves Canada in $600M trade deficit. Media loves to skip the details.

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                                          prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca
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                                          Can you explain what a trade deficit is and why it’s bad?

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