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@pathfinder How does Gifted Power from Dedication work with spells already in your spell list like on an Arcane Sorcerer?

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    @pathfinder How does Gifted Power from Dedication work with spells already in your spell list like on an Arcane Sorcerer?

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      @pathfinder How does Gifted Power from Dedication work with spells already in your spell list like on an Arcane Sorcerer?

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      buffman@lemmy.world
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      Gifted Power - Feats - Archives of Nethys: Pathfinder 2nd Edition Database

      Your mystery grants you additional magic. You have an extra spell slot of your highest rank, which you can use only to cast one of your mystery's granted spells, heightened to this rank.

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      From reading this, it doesn’t look like it would affect your other spells at all:

      Your mystery grants you additional magic. You have an extra spell slot of your highest rank, which you can use only to cast one of your mystery’s granted spells, heightened to this rank.

      Special If you have the divine access class feature or Mysterious Repertoire feat, you can cast spells that you learned from those abilities using the additional spell slot from Gifted Power.

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        Gifted Power - Feats - Archives of Nethys: Pathfinder 2nd Edition Database

        Your mystery grants you additional magic. You have an extra spell slot of your highest rank, which you can use only to cast one of your mystery's granted spells, heightened to this rank.

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        (2e.aonprd.com)

        From reading this, it doesn’t look like it would affect your other spells at all:

        Your mystery grants you additional magic. You have an extra spell slot of your highest rank, which you can use only to cast one of your mystery’s granted spells, heightened to this rank.

        Special If you have the divine access class feature or Mysterious Repertoire feat, you can cast spells that you learned from those abilities using the additional spell slot from Gifted Power.

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        @Buffman How would it change anything? The special only adds to the feat conditionally, it doesn't seem to explicitly change anything previous to that.

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          @Buffman How would it change anything? The special only adds to the feat conditionally, it doesn't seem to explicitly change anything previous to that.

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          buffman@lemmy.world
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          The first part of the feat gives you an extra spell slot of your highest spell rank, but that slot can only be used to cast spells granted from your mystery. For an Oracle dedication, you’d need to take additional archetype feats to get access to Oracle mystery spells, e.g., https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=6220

          If you also happen to pick up divine access or mysterious repertoire, then you can use this extra slot to cast spells granted by those feats as well.

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            The first part of the feat gives you an extra spell slot of your highest spell rank, but that slot can only be used to cast spells granted from your mystery. For an Oracle dedication, you’d need to take additional archetype feats to get access to Oracle mystery spells, e.g., https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=6220

            If you also happen to pick up divine access or mysterious repertoire, then you can use this extra slot to cast spells granted by those feats as well.

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            @Buffman spells from your mystery are rank spells though. The focus spells are revelation spells. Still ambiguous.

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              @Buffman spells from your mystery are rank spells though. The focus spells are revelation spells. Still ambiguous.

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              buffman@lemmy.world
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              True. That was probably a bad example. But if you picked up basic oracle spellcasting, that would let you cast the spells granted by your mystery.

              So you’d get an extra slot at your highest rank. For basic spell casting, this would be one rank 3 slot at level 8, so with gift of power you’d have two slots, one that would only let you cast spells granted by your mystery.

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                True. That was probably a bad example. But if you picked up basic oracle spellcasting, that would let you cast the spells granted by your mystery.

                So you’d get an extra slot at your highest rank. For basic spell casting, this would be one rank 3 slot at level 8, so with gift of power you’d have two slots, one that would only let you cast spells granted by your mystery.

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                @Buffman but which highest rank? Logically, your highest rank is the higher of the 2. Also the wording one of your mystery's granted spells is ambigious. You could already have had a granted spell the feat can maybe give more of.

                Maybe I'm just being nitpicky. Is only one specific highest level spell slot really a big deal already at level 12? Maybe it is for Chain Lightning.

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                  @Buffman but which highest rank? Logically, your highest rank is the higher of the 2. Also the wording one of your mystery's granted spells is ambigious. You could already have had a granted spell the feat can maybe give more of.

                  Maybe I'm just being nitpicky. Is only one specific highest level spell slot really a big deal already at level 12? Maybe it is for Chain Lightning.

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                  buffman@lemmy.world
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                  Your highest rank is based on your level. Technically this would give you a single rank four slot at level 9, a rank 5 slot at level 11, etc. without taking the expert or master spellcasting feats.

                  Yes, if you had spells from your sorcerer that overlapped with the mystery’s spells, you could cast them using the extra slot without taking the basic spellcasting feat.

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