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    Ontario to ban research testing on dogs and cats, premier says

    Ontario will ban research testing on dogs and cats, Premier Doug Ford said Monday as he called the practice “cruel.”

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      rimitywr@lemmy.world
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      Ford wants to use cyclists instead. They’re not people like dogs are.

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        NotSteve_
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        Wait I had no idea this was even allowed to begin with

        That led to an article published earlier this month that found the dogs — mostly puppies — were used for tests and killed before their internal organs were removed for further examination.

        What the fuck?

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          zephorah@discuss.online
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          In regard to some avenues of research that’s too bad. Cats are a point of study for weight gain and loss since they appear to have issues similar to us. Some cats gain and hold weight faster than their mates with similar amounts of food. Some cats compulsively overeat while their mates do not. And so on.

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            Wait I had no idea this was even allowed to begin with

            That led to an article published earlier this month that found the dogs — mostly puppies — were used for tests and killed before their internal organs were removed for further examination.

            What the fuck?

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            can@sh.itjust.works
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            It’s baffling. I want to know each province’s laws now.

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              plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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              Now do rabbits, mice, bats, primates and everything with a brain actually.

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                Wait I had no idea this was even allowed to begin with

                That led to an article published earlier this month that found the dogs — mostly puppies — were used for tests and killed before their internal organs were removed for further examination.

                What the fuck?

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                breadoven@lemmy.world
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                Pretty standard practice for animal research. Mainly mice and rats, but some types of research are better modeled by different animals.

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                  Pretty standard practice for animal research. Mainly mice and rats, but some types of research are better modeled by different animals.

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                  can@sh.itjust.works
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                  Do you know what the laws are like in other provinces or countries?

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                    Do you know what the laws are like in other provinces or countries?

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                    slowy@lemmy.world
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                    There are national regulations covering animal research under the legislating body, the CCAC.

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                      In regard to some avenues of research that’s too bad. Cats are a point of study for weight gain and loss since they appear to have issues similar to us. Some cats gain and hold weight faster than their mates with similar amounts of food. Some cats compulsively overeat while their mates do not. And so on.

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                      slowy@lemmy.world
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                      Yeah not to mention animal testing isn’t just for human medical advancements… a lot of animal testing is to develop treatments for animal diseases, test new diet ingredients (after which the animals are adopted out), etc…

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                        showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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                        as he called the practice “cruel.”

                        Cool. Then we can agree that fishing, animal-based agriculture, hunting, fur farms, and puppy mills should be banned, too? Right, Doug?

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                          Now do rabbits, mice, bats, primates and everything with a brain actually.

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                          showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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                          Most people only view cats and dogs of having any value worth protecting, which is terrible.

                          Oh, by the way, Doug’s government also wants to make it illegal for people to know about the cruelty on factory farms.

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                            Yeah not to mention animal testing isn’t just for human medical advancements… a lot of animal testing is to develop treatments for animal diseases, test new diet ingredients (after which the animals are adopted out), etc…

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                            bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                            Sadly most aren’t adopted out as their systems/organs are wrecked so they get euthenized

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                              compactflax@discuss.tchncs.de
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                              Incredibly shortsighted and he’s demonstrating his ignorance of the laws of his own country.

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                                In regard to some avenues of research that’s too bad. Cats are a point of study for weight gain and loss since they appear to have issues similar to us. Some cats gain and hold weight faster than their mates with similar amounts of food. Some cats compulsively overeat while their mates do not. And so on.

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                                We do test some things on humans for human diseases, and we have strict guidelines on proving safety / efficacy before human tests are approved + how those human tests are conducted. It might be helpful for everyone (humans / animals) to adopt some of those guidelines to animal studies.

                                Since yes, as you said, studying why cats suffer health issues can improve the lives of lots of animals. The key is doing the studies compassionately

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                                  Incredibly shortsighted and he’s demonstrating his ignorance of the laws of his own country.

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                                  masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                                  What is the decision framework they used that led to them approving inducing 3hr heart attacks in beagle puppies before killing them?

                                  People here seem happy to have blind faith in the system when it produced results that are objectively horrific. I would genuinely like to understand what the cost/benefit analysis was, what alternatives methods of research were considered, and why they weren’t viable.

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                                    ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                                    What makes dogs and cats special?

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                                      Ford wants to use cyclists instead. They’re not people like dogs are.

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                                      corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                                      Bad incidents with dogs and cats? 0

                                      Bad incidents with belligerent cyclists: 2

                                      One group appears to be more civilized.

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                                        corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                                        So all testing will be done on humans. Got it. (No animal testing means no testing, meaning the first application are humans, and thus you are the testers. Yay!)

                                        Pick a lane, Doug.

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                                          zamboni_driver@lemmy.ca
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                                          I believe that they were testing on dogs because they were developing medicine for dogs…

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