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Most Canadians now see US as a ‘threat,’ study reveals

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      ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      the US is an active threat to life on earth so uh… yeah

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        Fascist states are always a threat.

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          asg101@lemmy.ca
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          The U.S. has always been a threat to democracies all over the planet. Look up the number of countries they have supported right-wing dictators in and coups against democratically elected left-leaning leaders. tRump has just bought the totalitarianism home, and dropped the mask for all the world to see.

          People need to remember history and not get fooled if the mask ever goes back on.

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            Fascist states are always a threat.

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            Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit. Canadian conservatives are as rife with MAGA anti-environmentalism, xenophobia, and rabid imperialism as their peers in Michigan, New Hampshire, and Idaho.

            They just don’t like being on the receiving end of Trumpism.

            Edit: We’ll see who is getting downvoted once the Alberta Separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

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              thefeaturecreature@lemmy.ca
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              And so they should. The US is a fascist state that has repeatedly threatened to invade Canada.

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              • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit. Canadian conservatives are as rife with MAGA anti-environmentalism, xenophobia, and rabid imperialism as their peers in Michigan, New Hampshire, and Idaho.

                They just don’t like being on the receiving end of Trumpism.

                Edit: We’ll see who is getting downvoted once the Alberta Separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

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                canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit.

                I’d say that’s a high estimate. Maybe 20%, with another 60% that just wasn’t worried about it very much.

                This isn’t new, unfortunately. Fascism was trendy and influential in polite circles all through the 1920’s and early 30’s. Then they actually got to put their ideas in practice. Humans can be pretty shit like that.

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                  canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  Europeans are still most concerned by Vladimir Putin’s Russia, Pew Research Center survey shows.

                  We understand America better. They’ll come around - especially if Russia starts having serious internal problems.

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                    nyan@lemmy.cafe
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                    Well, Europeans are physically closer to Russia than to America. It isn’t unreasonable to prioritize the more immediate threat, and some people’s brains seem to only have room for one.

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                      Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit.

                      I’d say that’s a high estimate. Maybe 20%, with another 60% that just wasn’t worried about it very much.

                      This isn’t new, unfortunately. Fascism was trendy and influential in polite circles all through the 1920’s and early 30’s. Then they actually got to put their ideas in practice. Humans can be pretty shit like that.

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                      underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                      Maybe 20%, with another 60% that just wasn’t worried about it very much.

                      Enough that the Liberals were on their way to a historic wipe out absent Trump pissing all over the Canadian export industry. Pierre Poilievre was fully on the American bandwagon, straight up echoing Republican talking points word-for-word in his campaign appearances, prior to January. The 60% that “wasn’t worried” was happy enough to support a Vichy Canadian government practically days before the vote.

                      Fascism was trendy and influential in polite circles all through the 1920’s and early 30’s.

                      Comically easy to forget how half the English royal family was Nazi-pilled right up until the bombs started landing. Or that American big business profited handsomely from the reconstruction of the German War Machine.

                      Folks really don’t like to think further back than 1941 when it comes to global political history. And even then… Yalta might as well have had Stalin airbrushed out.

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                        And so they should. The US is a fascist state that has repeatedly threatened to invade Canada.

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                        zqwzzle@lemmy.ca
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                        With a toddler that has access to nuclear weapons

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                            Maybe 20%, with another 60% that just wasn’t worried about it very much.

                            Enough that the Liberals were on their way to a historic wipe out absent Trump pissing all over the Canadian export industry. Pierre Poilievre was fully on the American bandwagon, straight up echoing Republican talking points word-for-word in his campaign appearances, prior to January. The 60% that “wasn’t worried” was happy enough to support a Vichy Canadian government practically days before the vote.

                            Fascism was trendy and influential in polite circles all through the 1920’s and early 30’s.

                            Comically easy to forget how half the English royal family was Nazi-pilled right up until the bombs started landing. Or that American big business profited handsomely from the reconstruction of the German War Machine.

                            Folks really don’t like to think further back than 1941 when it comes to global political history. And even then… Yalta might as well have had Stalin airbrushed out.

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                            Avid Amoeba
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                            You said Trump bus originally. We were on the American bus, not the Trump bus. Once there was a change of driver to Trump, we got off at the next stop, as you pointed out.

                            Also most Canadians didn’t love PP either. Instead we were united in hating Trudeau, which is why the libs started climbing in the polls as soon as Trudeau left the room. Before there was a new leader.

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                              The U.S. has always been a threat to democracies all over the planet. Look up the number of countries they have supported right-wing dictators in and coups against democratically elected left-leaning leaders. tRump has just bought the totalitarianism home, and dropped the mask for all the world to see.

                              People need to remember history and not get fooled if the mask ever goes back on.

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                              This has been a pretty educational moment ngl…

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                                The funniest thing to me is that even my MOST right leaning relatives on Facebook etc have started posting anti Trump stuff. Trump unified Canada in our dislike of him.

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                                  The funniest thing to me is that even my MOST right leaning relatives on Facebook etc have started posting anti Trump stuff. Trump unified Canada in our dislike of him.

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                                  c4551e@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  I wish this meant they weren’t going to vote for a party that would happily offer Canada up for auction in exchange for the opportunity to kiss Trump’s feet

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                                    You said Trump bus originally. We were on the American bus, not the Trump bus. Once there was a change of driver to Trump, we got off at the next stop, as you pointed out.

                                    Also most Canadians didn’t love PP either. Instead we were united in hating Trudeau, which is why the libs started climbing in the polls as soon as Trudeau left the room. Before there was a new leader.

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                                    We were on the American bus, not the Trump bus.

                                    Alberta Premier Danielle Smith visits Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago


                                    One poll in the 2020s, noted by the Toronto Star, showed that about 50% of Americans are against Canada joining, 25% are in favour, and 25% are not sure


                                    And this shit is snowballing as reactionaries drive the media cycle, particularly in states like Alberta.

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                                      Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit. Canadian conservatives are as rife with MAGA anti-environmentalism, xenophobia, and rabid imperialism as their peers in Michigan, New Hampshire, and Idaho.

                                      They just don’t like being on the receiving end of Trumpism.

                                      Edit: We’ll see who is getting downvoted once the Alberta Separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

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                                      xhead@lemmy.ca
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                                      once the Alberta separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

                                      I’m getting real “my truck is bigger than your truck” vibes. Contrary to some beliefs, running a country is actually more than making money. I know it can be hard for some people to see past a single policy though.

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                                        once the Alberta separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

                                        I’m getting real “my truck is bigger than your truck” vibes. Contrary to some beliefs, running a country is actually more than making money. I know it can be hard for some people to see past a single policy though.

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                                        I’m getting real “my truck is bigger than your truck” vibes.

                                        Hardly a sentiment alien to the Great White North.

                                        Contrary to some beliefs, running a country is actually more than making money.

                                        Ah, but all the Tories need to run is a marketing campaign. They can worry about running the country later, kinda like how Johnson and Starmer were left to sort things out after Brexit.

                                        I know it can be hard for some people to see past a single policy though.

                                        I mean, American liberals said that about immigration 20 years ago. Kicked the can down the road even when they had supermajorities in Congress and a free hand to write whatever reforms they pleased.

                                        Now, here we are.

                                        Cost of living increases in Canada are driving people crazy. But the only response either party seems able to field is “More structured privatization, more subsidies, more deficit hawkery, more neoliberalism”.

                                        The Alberta Solution hinges on the theory that they can outrun capital consolidation if everyone becomes a roughneck earning six figure salaries at the well-head. Obviously bullshit. But you can at least point to current salaries and all those middle-income riggers and truckers with their big cars and nice homes and pretend it’s a serious solution.

                                        Carney’s up the same shit creek as Trudeau, though. He can’t do any real economic reforms that run afoul of the country’s biggest private stackholders. So he’s just left fiddling around the edges of policy, hoping Toronto housing prices magically deflate sometime in the next five years.

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                                          not2dopey@sh.itjust.works
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                                          How about “All Canadians except those that live in Alberta now see the US as a threat”

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