As someone who casually drinks I have zero issues either putting labels on alcohol.

I also like many have switched from alcohol based drinks to non alcoholic based drinks. I like beer, but I don’t need to be drunk. I don’t need it to numb my mind or my faculties.

I’m all for this to make it aware to everyone.

Huh I’m surprised smoking has only declined by 25% in the lat 20 years. I’d have guessed at least 50%.

The decline in smoking started well before 20 years ago, smoking rates used to be like 50% of the adult population, now it’s down to 10%ish.

However, based on online graphs, it seems like it has been closer to 50% over the last 20 years.

https://uwaterloo.ca/tobacco-use-canada/adult-tobacco-use/smoking-canada/historical-trends-smoking-prevalence https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/can/canada/smoking-rate-statistics

I am holier than thou as I never really liked the taste of beer or booze. I have not had any alcohol for over 40 years.

I grew up with an alcoholic mother. Not violent but she was a grumpy unhappy drunk (for valid reasons). Like if I came home at night and the dog was out on the porch I knew she was toasted. Long story short she messed up ours and many others lives due to it.

I sold cannabis for over 40 yrs to friends that I grew up with and never once saw the level of destruction that booze did to the drinker and their surrounding circle compared to cannabis.

I agree there should be warning labels.

What the heck, they are on pretty much everything these days anyhow.

Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

And … The Canada Alcohol Deficit studies indicate that our current alcohol deficit is over 6 billion dollars. Meaning that after we take in taxation on alcohol, and we deal with the social, health, and criminal costs, we’re down 6B (e: the linked article below shows just under 4Bn but that’s out of date)

Not only do we need warning labels, but we need to literally double the price of alcohol imo

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/reports-publications/health-promotion-chronic-disease-prevention-canada-research-policy-practice/vol-40-no-5-6-2020/alcohol-deficit-canadian-government-revenue-societal-costs.html

While we’re at it, let’s add childproof containers. If cannabis has it, so should alcohol

If they put half the regulation effort into booze the same way they do with cannabis we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Drunk is the only time I truly enjoy life. Life is just dredging on day after day on a work, commute, sleep pattern that makes me hope for a young death

When I drink I feel like life is supposed to feel like. I feel like little things can make me happy and I truly enjoy those little things. If it kills me, at least I died enjoying SOMETHING. I know I need to stop, but it so hard when everything else is so awful.

That being said, labels would make sense.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics, eh? Thanks for the sources!

If you would like I’d like to offer support

Why I say this: In 3 weeks it will be 10 years since my last drink, after 23 years of continual self-abuse. I fell through every crack, yet I “”“made”" it (yes triple quotes lol) and I’ve been through just about every system there is. I’m really good at listening, validating, and giving my experiences to others

I intentionally turned myself off from being a game developer and tech madman, and I now work in peer support, withdrawal management, recovery/housing mentorship etc. Because I want to be the support that was never there for me when I need it

So I’m here for you if you need me my friend. Please don’t assume that I’ll tell you what’s right for you or anything along those lines You’ll be heard

Edit I figured out that there’s direct messaging so feel free to message me privately if you’d like

Well here’s the thing though (not to invalidate what you are saying about cannabis users). I’m just saying because I work in the field of addiction, and it’s a bit of a twist on the perspective

People often have an unconscious idea that the mood altering substance drives the behavior. But it’s actually the other way around, typically the specifics of the individual’s mental health and emotional issues drive the consumption of the specific substance.

Alcohol users, for example, have generally extreme anxiety disorders. Those arise for a variety of very valid reasons. So it’s more accurate to say people who have severe anxiety, tend to self-medicate with alcohol. And people who stick with cannabis, have other issues they are running from

It’s just a little twist on perspective, that’s all. A lot of times we think about what alcohol does to people, but neglect to see that the problem preceeds the drinking

I will declare my bias, even though I am a cannabis user, I think it is a substance which most people are in heavy denial about. We are currently exiting the zeitgeist of “it’s a panacea” and finally starting to embrace the fact that it’s a very dangerous substance for most users. We can overtly see for example a drunk punching a hole in the wall, but we don’t really see in the same way, a heavy cannabis user who’s becoming emotionally non-functional and can’t govern his/her own life. Or who can no longer distinguish observable reality from the thoughts in their head.

Labels are fine but increasing the price sounds ridiculous. I don’t drink alcohol but I cook with it all the time. I don’t need an increase in my grocery bill.

I wish there were more choices of non-alcohol beers, but it’s usually a choice of one shitty brand that tastes like soap or worse. There are good non-alcohol beers, but bars and pubs seem to have no interest in them.

And they often cost as much as a regular beer, that’s one thing that puts me off them.

Same with non alcohol cocktails. They’re still $15 each.

Well it feels like more people are smoking weed than they used to.

Your rationale is I don’t want to pay more because I don’t want to.

I understand, nobody does want to pay more for things, but the way taxation is structured means every bottle has a net cost to society. That’s not a justifiable or defensible position.

And your claim that you just cook with it is highly specious.

We’ve had warning labels on cigarettes’ for ages, as a recovering alcoholic, I totally agree there should be warning labels.

What do you think about kombucha, i find it kinda itches the right spot

Can’t hurt

I think there are 0 people out there who would be surprised at that label.

Slightly inconvenient for booze manufacturers, like we care…

Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

The reality hasn’t changed, only our understanding of it.