Prince Andrew’s latest scandal begs the question: Why does Canada still have a monarchy?
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Dork shit tbh.
thanks for the insult.
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thanks for the insult.
I know it’s what you wanted. Genuine favour.
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The monarchy stops things like Jan6th from happening, probably would have limited the whole hanging chads thing as well. They (via the GG) have peacefully resolved the 2008 constitutional crisis as a canadian example. The monarchs power and money is tied to exactly one thing, the current political system continuing, that is their only power and it aligns with their incentives. I don’t like the monarchs, but I like constitutional monarchies and I don’t see a good way of setting up a new head of state that isn’t elected (and thus corruptible). Perhaps a Native leader of some kind.
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Ummm…so, what does Prince Andrew have to do with Canadian government? What official role exactly, does he play in Canadian politics? Oh. None? Ok.
So, who the fuck cares, then? This loser has all but been completely disowned by the Royal family, anyway.
Right, whereas Charles is morality incarnate.
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They don’t even list a cost they say could cost us this much. Not that it does.
Yeah, could is doing a fair bit of lifting. What, does he have to decide to stay here full-time? Well, sure, if he did that, I’m sure security, dignitary visits, etc. could ramp us up to those numbers, but the entire royal family usually only costs us a few million a year for their visits. Increasing that by a factor of 20 for just one individual seems a bit alarmist.
Now, I can accept there are perfectly legitimate reasons to want to get rid of the monarchy, I just don’t see it as worth it from a pragmatic or financial standpoint. If they decide to have more impact than their quaint celebrity status and their names on a few rubber stamps, I imagine a lot of people like me would shrug and say, “Welp, end of a era, looks like we’re designing some new money.” I expect prince Andrew deciding to cost us almost $60M while having to put up with his presence would do it. And don’t think the rest of his family doesn’t know it.
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Because it distinguishes us from the USA. Good enough for me. No one takes these inbred clowns seriously any way.
Second best reason I’ve seen for keeping them around.
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Except that that opens an even larger can of worms.
Currently, the GG is selected on the PM’s recommendation. We’ve gotten away with that so far because there’s a disinterested party staring over the PM’s shoulder in the form of the monarch (reducing the chance of really dodgy recommendations) and because no PM has yet run off the rails the way Trump is doing down south.
In every government decision except the selection of the GG, the GG is the disinterested person staring over the PM’s shoulder. Even if they don’t normally exercise any power, I don’t want a position that could act as a check for the PM being decided on by the PM. So we then have to move to some other method of selecting the GG. The most usual method in other countries is by holding a separate election, but that immediately pisses a huge amount of money down the drain. And that’s without dragging in the constitutional amendment considerations.
I’d rather just spend a trivial (on national budget scales) amount of money on the monarchy and keep the worms firmly enclosed in their cylindrical metal containers, thanks very much.
True, GG should probably be chosen in a different fasion. It’s still a well established position with a well defined role, no need to restructure the whole government if we do decide to fully leave England’s royal system. I think that restructuring would open a lot more cans.
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Because it distinguishes us from the USA. Good enough for me. No one takes these inbred clowns seriously any way.
There are many other factors that make us unique, rather than this parasite that collectively costs us a fortune for zero return
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There are many other factors that make us unique, rather than this parasite that collectively costs us a fortune for zero return
End monarchy, now!There are many other factors that make us unique
not really, Ontario and Alberta are just acting like US states. MAGA Premieres.
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Canada does not have a monarchy and it is no longer a “dominion”.
Actually, we’re still a constitutional monarchy (the monarch is the de jure head-of-state, but does not wield absolute power), and the designation “Dominion of Canada” was never officially withdrawn as far as I know, it’s just that no one, even the government, uses it anymore. (“Dominion” is effectively meaningless in this context, anyway—it’s a word that was semi-randomly chosen back in the 19th century because people were afraid that “Kingdom of Canada” would give the Americans hives.)
But yeah, we have much better things to do with our time than worry about shenanigans by minor members of the royal family.
Actually, we’re still a constitutional monarchy
We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
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We already have a Governer General, we wouldn’t even be changing any structures. Just removing the symbolic power and giving it to the Governer General to begin with.
I’d be happy to kill that office. Every GG we have had has been a money burning asshole.
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There are many other factors that make us unique
not really, Ontario and Alberta are just acting like US states. MAGA Premieres.
You’re Canadian because of monarchy, wtf is that stance?
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Yeah I have zero love or care for the monarchy. It should be abolished in Canada stat. We do however need a symbol, that’s Canadian, that’s non-political, that has term limits, that Indigenous treaty holders can still honour their treaties with. Something that Indigenous communities hold in as high regard as the crown. The monarchy will be tough to displace on that aspect.
The monarchy will be tough to displace on that aspect.
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