'Valve does not get anywhere near enough criticism': DayZ creator Dean Hall says the 'gambling mechanics' of Valve's monetization strategy 'have absolutely no place' in videogames
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FIX YOUR GAME DEAN!.. sorry old habits
Icarus is solid and Kitten Space Agency appears to be coming along nicely.
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Valve loot boxes have always worked that way. They didn’t change them to skirt regulations. I don’t really find it very scummy at all. Nothing in the loot boxes can give you an advantage in the game. Most of the games that include this feature are free to play. This is how they make money from their game. The vast majority of people don’t pay very much at all. You can play the games and have tons of fun and never interact with the loot box system. It’s an optional thing for people who like the game so much that they want to pay. It’s basically donate to valve and have a chance to unlock a cosmetic item in game.
Ok so morning outrage clicks for naught?
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No, but the rest of the industry is so incredibly scummy that they look good by comparison.
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No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling
What do you think they’re buying it for?
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Oh, I thought this was going to be about the trading cards they implemented in steam. Those are so lame and cheap I wasn’t bothered by this.
For any non-readers-of-articles, this is about a loot box mechanic added to counterstrike (which is fair criticism imho)
I’ve bought games just from sitting there for an hour and selling those cards. All these years and i still have no idea why people buy them.
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Selling is the problem, it makes it actual gambling.
Selling is not gambling. It’s kind of the opposite of gambling.
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Selling is not gambling. It’s kind of the opposite of gambling.
Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them?
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I agree.
But it’s important to note that just because it flies under the radar of most people, doesn’t mean it isn’t an absolutely deplorable system that exploits the difficult to control tendencies of vulnerable people.
It’s evil, and while it’s “only a little bit of evil” compared to most similar system, there is no amount of evil that is ok.
Being ‘least shitty’ isn’t really a worthwhile acolade.
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I’ve bought games just from sitting there for an hour and selling those cards. All these years and i still have no idea why people buy them.
They are needed to craft badges, which level up your profile. Higher level profile means more customization. So if youre into the social aspect of steam then they are required at least a little bit. Obviously for you they aren’t needed so yeah you can just sell them to others and make a buck, and thats a pretty cool system imo.
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Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them?
That doesn’t make any sense.
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Yes. That’s what I said.
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I’ve bought games just from sitting there for an hour and selling those cards. All these years and i still have no idea why people buy them.
If you complete a set you get xp and level up your profile. I sell the expensive cards I get from my games and buy the cheap ones to get a full set. I’m on level 52 and I never put any money on steam for any reason other than buying games. My profile looks cool because of this and I like it.
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If you complete a set you get xp and level up your profile. I sell the expensive cards I get from my games and buy the cheap ones to get a full set. I’m on level 52 and I never put any money on steam for any reason other than buying games. My profile looks cool because of this and I like it.
I’m not going to knock your good time. I’m glad someone enjoys them.
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That doesn’t make any sense.
If valve isn’t buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why?
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If valve isn’t buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why?
You’re trying too hard.
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You’re trying too hard.
I’m not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform.
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I’m not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform.
Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling.
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This guy will get tons of flak and maybe even death treats for criticizing Valve. For whatever reason there is a rabid cult like following for Valve and Gabe Newell. I remember several years ago I said something like “Valve is still a company that’s out to make money at the end of the day” and several of my gaming friends instantly were no longer friends. It’s quite hilarious for me to just think about that even today.
I’m pleasantly surpised the “Steam Circle Jerk” group hasn’t shown up to defend Valve. Valve more or less controls the digital distribution of games, to point that if a dev’s game isn’t on Steam; they are taking a massive loss in potential revenue. We are being asked take Valve on a good faith that they won’t rat fuck the consumer.
As you correctly pointed out, Valve’s main purpose to make money. Private or public, it’s only matter of time before a company rat fucks the consumer. More competiton is always better for the consumer.
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Gabe’s deification has always been disturbing to me. There are no good billionaires.
The only good billionarie is a former billionarie who had their wealth taken away and restributed for benefit society.
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No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling
“First one’s free”
As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business.
