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Project 2025 mastermind invited to speak at Carney's cabinet meeting

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  • C canconda@lemmy.ca

    I don’t like that it’s closed doors, but I question the framing of this article.

    Like clearly Canada needs to keep negotiations with the USA open and Carney is not in control of who Trump authorizes to speak for the USA.

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    olivemoon@lemmy.ca
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    “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer”. Carney has a long and distinguished career in finance and politics. He is in complete control with whom he meets. Carney is buying time and setting up alternate trade outside of USSA. This takes time.

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    • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

      Canada needs to keep negotiations with the USA open

      I don’t want that.

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      olivemoon@lemmy.ca
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      They need time. Canada IS setting up trade with other nations. It’s not going to happen overnight…

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      • W wirebeads@lemmy.ca

        If Carney fucks us, I’m going to be rightly fucking pissed.

        If this is a meeting for discovery, OK. If this is a meeting to engage them more, fuck off.

        This closed door meeting better have some public relay once it’s over a good solid cabinet member can leak the details.

        This does not sit well with me.

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        olivemoon@lemmy.ca
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        Geezus. Why do you immediately think the worst? Maybe Carney wants to put this BS to bed. Is it so hard to believe he’s not in cahoots?

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        • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

          Geezus. Why do you immediately think the worst? Maybe Carney wants to put this BS to bed. Is it so hard to believe he’s not in cahoots?

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          jhex@lemmy.world
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          yes, trust is earned, not pressumed

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          • G generallynonsensical@lemmy.world

            Know your enemy.

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            patatas@sh.itjust.works
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            #24

            Oh, and I suppose the enemy is going to give you good info?

            This is nonsense. You don’t sit down with fascists. Easiest rule. This is unconscionable.

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            • C canconda@lemmy.ca

              I’ll join you in that chant when I’m convinced it’s not a gross oversimplification that ignores developments not covered in the media.

              As much as I’d rather socialist domestic policies, I acknowledge that in realpolitik terms we don’t exist in a void or have the luxury of ignoring the influence of neo-fascists like the USA.

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              patatas@sh.itjust.works
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              #25

              You: Maybe we can sit down with fascists just a bit

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              • lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caL lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca

                Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

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                anachronist@midwest.social
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                #26

                Yeah the guy who ran on opposing Trump and supporting workers who immediately folded to Trump and ratfucked the flight attendants definitely deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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                • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                  You: Maybe we can sit down with fascists just a bit

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                  randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                  #27

                  You are acting like they are signing a weapons deal.

                  Do you want Canada to close its US embassies too?

                  Real life isn’t black and white.

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                  • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                    You are acting like they are signing a weapons deal.

                    Do you want Canada to close its US embassies too?

                    Real life isn’t black and white.

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                    patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                    #28

                    Lol yeah you’re right, it’s cool, just inviting the author of a document so heinous that even Donald fucking Trump had to distance himself from it in order to get elected, totally normal

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                      patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                      #29

                      The next person that says “strategic voting” within earshot is getting knocked out, I swear to god. This is so beyond the pale

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                      • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                        Lol yeah you’re right, it’s cool, just inviting the author of a document so heinous that even Donald fucking Trump had to distance himself from it in order to get elected, totally normal

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                        randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                        #30

                        Damn, glad he distanced himself, wouldn’t want them to think Donny has bad friends.

                        Wtf are you even saying? Lol.

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                        • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                          Damn, glad he distanced himself, wouldn’t want them to think Donny has bad friends.

                          Wtf are you even saying? Lol.

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                          patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                          #31

                          When asked during the campaign if Project 2025 was his agenda, Trump said he had never heard of it. This was widely reported, so I’m not sure why you’re confused about what I wrote

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                          • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                            The next person that says “strategic voting” within earshot is getting knocked out, I swear to god. This is so beyond the pale

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                            soup@lemmy.world
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                            Amen.

                            Never a good reason, it only delays bad shit until it’s even worse and cripples the opposition you wanted all along. Strategic voting is dogshit in every way.

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                            • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                              When asked during the campaign if Project 2025 was his agenda, Trump said he had never heard of it. This was widely reported, so I’m not sure why you’re confused about what I wrote

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                              bdot@lemmy.world
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                              there’s two things that EVERYONE should be able to recognize about Trump, but really just boils down to one simple fact : he always says the opposite of what is true.

                              • when he says “nobody knows more about this than me,” what he REALLY means is “i am completely clueless about this subject”

                              • when he says “never heard of it,” he is VERY involved.

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                              • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                                Capitulation Carney.

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                                lost_faith
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                                When I first said this about him I was hoping he was just playing the long game, getting less and less sure

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                                  grte@lemmy.ca
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                                  The Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) said Roberts is speaking to cabinet about trade issues because he knows the Trump administration’s playbook.

                                  And what exactly is this guy’s motivation to share that information with us? Just out of the kindness of his heart? The guy quoted in this very article as saying the US was in the midst of a,

                                  “second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

                                  Yeah, that’s a stand up guy who I definitely trust to tell me the truth. Come the fuck on.

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                                    asg101@lemmy.ca
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                                    Capitulating Capitalist Carney will always put monied interests above those of the people. Once a banker, always a banker.

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                                    • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                                      “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer”. Carney has a long and distinguished career in finance and politics. He is in complete control with whom he meets. Carney is buying time and setting up alternate trade outside of USSA. This takes time.

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                                      hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                      USSA 🤔

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                                      • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                                        They need time. Canada IS setting up trade with other nations. It’s not going to happen overnight…

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                                        canconda@lemmy.ca
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                                        Our exports dropped 19% in Q2 this year. Diversifying 1/5th of our trade will take long enough that the responsible thing to do is salvage what trade we can from the USA in the interim.

                                        There’s a world of difference between buyCanadian and wefuckingneedourexportsguys.

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                                        • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                                          USSA 🤔

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                                          ganryuu@lemmy.ca
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                                          Union of Soviet Socialist Americas?

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