Trump Declares End Of Pride Month Recognition — And Canada Is Watching Closely
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Your daily reminder that trans rights are human rights. Gay rights are human rights. Any government trying to roll these back is only rolling back rights for all of us to be who we are.
Supporting trans people is not taking away from women, these things aren’t zero sum.
Trans men gain the ability to compete with biological women, while biological women would be forced to compete with biological men. Is that not the definition of zero sum?
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Trans men gain the ability to compete with biological women, while biological women would be forced to compete with biological men. Is that not the definition of zero sum?
Out of curiosity, what is with peoples usage of sports as some magnificent example of why trans rights shouldn’t be allowed to exist?
Speaking as a nonbinary person, I don’t care about sports. I genuinely have no interest in it. Why am I not allowed to exist comfortably just because someone old fart in another country got mad their sports team lost? Like, oh noooo, our existence is spoiling your beer and fun times with the bros. Who cares.
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Out of curiosity, what is with peoples usage of sports as some magnificent example of why trans rights shouldn’t be allowed to exist?
Speaking as a nonbinary person, I don’t care about sports. I genuinely have no interest in it. Why am I not allowed to exist comfortably just because someone old fart in another country got mad their sports team lost? Like, oh noooo, our existence is spoiling your beer and fun times with the bros. Who cares.
Well sure, if you want to talk about public change room instead, then it would be the safe space provided. You’re obviously thinking of yourself as a non-threatening actor, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to use the ladies change room?
Assume someone on the other side of this simply wants safe zones for women that are safe from the other gender, what would you tell that person as to why it needs to be eliminated?
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Trans men gain the ability to compete with biological women, while biological women would be forced to compete with biological men. Is that not the definition of zero sum?
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Trans men gain the ability to compete with biological women, while biological women would be forced to compete with biological men. Is that not the definition of zero sum?
Sports is the only ring where it kinda makes sense to have separate leagues, but how much of an issue is this actually?
There’s no way it’s worth the rhetoric and actions people have been taking.
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Well sure, if you want to talk about public change room instead, then it would be the safe space provided. You’re obviously thinking of yourself as a non-threatening actor, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to use the ladies change room?
Assume someone on the other side of this simply wants safe zones for women that are safe from the other gender, what would you tell that person as to why it needs to be eliminated?
It feels like an incredibly large amount of work, and we don’t really see gay people and lesbians making an issue out of change rooms.
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Well sure, if you want to talk about public change room instead, then it would be the safe space provided. You’re obviously thinking of yourself as a non-threatening actor, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to use the ladies change room?
Assume someone on the other side of this simply wants safe zones for women that are safe from the other gender, what would you tell that person as to why it needs to be eliminated?
On the basis that one person may or may not abuse the situation all trans people deserve to be accused and/or treated as second class citizens? There are current real world incidences of cisgender women getting harrased and assaulted in these very “safe zones” under the guise of protecting cisgender women.
The exclusion of trans women from these spaces creates a culture where some people are on the lookout for those who “don’t belong”, and this is leading to women who don’t fit visual/societal definitions of feminity and womanhood to getting singled out and harrased in these very spaces.
Trans women are not “the other gender” as you put it, they are women; trans men are men. Bad actors who want to assault women or vulnerable people will do that any way they see fit, their gender identity is irrelevant. Being inclusive to trans people does not eliminate safe spaces, they are also deserving of being protected.
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Well sure, if you want to talk about public change room instead, then it would be the safe space provided. You’re obviously thinking of yourself as a non-threatening actor, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to use the ladies change room?
Assume someone on the other side of this simply wants safe zones for women that are safe from the other gender, what would you tell that person as to why it needs to be eliminated?
let’s talk about public roads. you obviously think of yourself as a non-threatening driver, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to go 95 through a red light? better limit all cars to 30.
the argument you are using is treating an entire group of people like they are criminals just by existing. innocent until proven guilty.
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let’s talk about public roads. you obviously think of yourself as a non-threatening driver, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to go 95 through a red light? better limit all cars to 30.
the argument you are using is treating an entire group of people like they are criminals just by existing. innocent until proven guilty.
Yes you’re right. Would your ideal scenario then be we want everyone to be able to self identify as anything they want, or that we have no barriers to begin with?
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Sports is the only ring where it kinda makes sense to have separate leagues, but how much of an issue is this actually?
There’s no way it’s worth the rhetoric and actions people have been taking.
Some people assume nefarious individuals would go into ladies change rooms, washrooms, or prisons.
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Yes you’re right. Would your ideal scenario then be we want everyone to be able to self identify as anything they want, or that we have no barriers to begin with?
Why would anyone have an issue what other people self-identify as? My name is Todd, but I’d like you to call me Steve. Does this impact your day?
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What Canadians can do
We don’t control U.S. policy, but we do control our response.
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Speak up: When Pride visibility is under attack—even elsewhere—we need to be louder in our solidarity. Local businesses, schools, and governments should reaffirm their support explicitly.
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Support queer media and organizations: From Rainbow Railroad to The 519, Canadian orgs are doing frontline work that often fills in the gaps left by political inaction.
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Challenge imported rhetoric: Whether it’s book bans or “parental rights” bills, we must recognize when American talking points show up in Canadian debates—and push back accordingly.
Trump Declares End Of Pride Month Recognition — And Canada Is Watching Closely - IN Magazine
Donald Trump ditches Pride Month for Title IX Month. Why it matters for Canada—and how U.S. culture wars keep crossing our borders.
IN Magazine (inmagazine.ca)
we had pride way before we had legal recognition for pride
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What does that even mean. I don’t think it was ever made a public holiday. Might as well declare an end to saint patricks day for all it will do.
next up, mandatory Columbus day
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Why would anyone have an issue what other people self-identify as? My name is Todd, but I’d like you to call me Steve. Does this impact your day?
No it doesn’t, just curious. I could see a scenario where they want no segregation based on sex/gender/race/age/etc… since anyone can identify as they want.
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Some people assume nefarious individuals would go into ladies change rooms, washrooms, or prisons.
Nefarious people would do that regardless, if they chose.
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Well sure, if you want to talk about public change room instead, then it would be the safe space provided. You’re obviously thinking of yourself as a non-threatening actor, but can you say that nobody will abuse the ability to use the ladies change room?
Assume someone on the other side of this simply wants safe zones for women that are safe from the other gender, what would you tell that person as to why it needs to be eliminated?
So to stop the possibility that someone would sneak into a different bathroom to peek at someone’s genitals, you suggest we have people checking peoples genitals to even enter the room?
That takes a hypothetical problem and guarantees it.
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Out of curiosity, what is with peoples usage of sports as some magnificent example of why trans rights shouldn’t be allowed to exist?
Speaking as a nonbinary person, I don’t care about sports. I genuinely have no interest in it. Why am I not allowed to exist comfortably just because someone old fart in another country got mad their sports team lost? Like, oh noooo, our existence is spoiling your beer and fun times with the bros. Who cares.
It lets them reinforce the idea that “mens better than wimmens at sports” as well.
The whole thing is about reinforcing gender roles and views. Notice how they never go after transmen? Dudes may as well not even exist. It’s all about the transwomen and the potentiality to not look or act like their ideal of a woman. Must be stamped out!!!
Every fucking attempt to police transwomen in toilets has done nothing but harass cis women. There’s a reason for that
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So to stop the possibility that someone would sneak into a different bathroom to peek at someone’s genitals, you suggest we have people checking peoples genitals to even enter the room?
That takes a hypothetical problem and guarantees it.
I hate to laugh but you are right, that does seem to be happening. I just cant rationalize an answer that appeases everyone.
I just also feel that both side seems to be strawman’ing the other, so a discussion seems somewhat ridiculous every single time with no one agreeing on anything.
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Some people assume nefarious individuals would go into ladies change rooms, washrooms, or prisons.
It does happen, like we had a trans woman in BC (40s maybe) going into women’s washrooms and talking to teen girls, and asking them about their periods, but I seriosly doubt this is the normal behaviour of 99% of trans persons; it is the behaviour of a creep, wanting to talk inappropriately with teens.
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Trans men gain the ability to compete with biological women, while biological women would be forced to compete with biological men. Is that not the definition of zero sum?
- Trans men get the ability to compete with other men, I assume you mean trans women get to compete with other women.
- No one actually cares about women’s sports until “the trans issue” comes up. This argument is just an excuse to try to harm trans people. Most people can’t name a WNBA team, or name more than 5 female athletes.
- Biological differences is what professional sports are. That’s why people who have similar builds seem to play the same sports.
