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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 15th February 2026

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  • Sailor Sega SaturnS Sailor Sega Saturn

    Elon Musk pivots from mars colony tweets to moon colony tweets (xcancel).

    I’m not quite clear on what “self-growing” means here given how inhospitable the moon is.

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    soyweiser@awful.systems
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    Self growing like a video game, for example a colony in eu4, initially it costs a lot of gold per month to keep sending colonists, and when you reach 100% growth it becomes a full province on which you can build things.

    If only more journalists go: ‘we don’t know what this means either, and when we asked him he started shouting slurs at us’.

    given how inhospitable the moon is.

    You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

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    • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

      Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

      Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

      Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

      If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

      The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

      Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

      (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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      flere-imsaho
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      here’s another very good take from baldur bjarnason, answering the question if he had hardened his stance against LLMs.

      (the answer is “not exactly”, and you want to read the whole thing, because the answer itself is the least interesting part of the essay.)

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      • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

        If you accept the imho insane idea that a Mars colony is worth building, using Luna as a stepping stone makes sense. You can debug a lot of issues with recycling, growing food, low gravity, slow resupply etc. with a faster feedback loop.

        self-growing

        the virile space men will have plenty of nubile females to pump out babies

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        flere-imsaho
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        the virile space men will have

        i’ve heard they like to read sf, they might want to read heinlein’s luna stories and miss the point entirely

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        • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

          If you accept the imho insane idea that a Mars colony is worth building, using Luna as a stepping stone makes sense. You can debug a lot of issues with recycling, growing food, low gravity, slow resupply etc. with a faster feedback loop.

          self-growing

          the virile space men will have plenty of nubile females to pump out babies

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          rook@awful.systems
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          Weirdly, the moon might actually be more hostile that mars… the dust is sharper, the gravity is lower, the radiation is worse, the nights are longer and colder, there’s less water…

          It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

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          • S soyweiser@awful.systems

            Self growing like a video game, for example a colony in eu4, initially it costs a lot of gold per month to keep sending colonists, and when you reach 100% growth it becomes a full province on which you can build things.

            If only more journalists go: ‘we don’t know what this means either, and when we asked him he started shouting slurs at us’.

            given how inhospitable the moon is.

            You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

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            froztbyte@awful.systems
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            You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

            what if the moon got mad tho

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            • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

              here’s another very good take from baldur bjarnason, answering the question if he had hardened his stance against LLMs.

              (the answer is “not exactly”, and you want to read the whole thing, because the answer itself is the least interesting part of the essay.)

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              bluemonday1984@awful.systems
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              #11

              The whole thing’s worth reading, but this snippet in particular deserves attention:

              Tech companies have done everything they can to maximise the potential harms of generative models because in doing so they think they’re maximising their own personal benefit.

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              • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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                lurker@awful.systems
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                Eliezer, I would be very careful about talking about age of consent if I were you

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                • S soyweiser@awful.systems

                  Self growing like a video game, for example a colony in eu4, initially it costs a lot of gold per month to keep sending colonists, and when you reach 100% growth it becomes a full province on which you can build things.

                  If only more journalists go: ‘we don’t know what this means either, and when we asked him he started shouting slurs at us’.

                  given how inhospitable the moon is.

                  You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

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                  v0ldek@awful.systems
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                  #13

                  Given it’s the Moon a better comparison would be a Greenland colony in EU5 where it costs gold initially and then costs your precious sanity, as you are doomed to ship tonnes and tonnes of food and materials there for centuries because there is nothing fucking there and the whole endeavour was a huge mistake.

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                    Eliezer, I would be very careful about talking about age of consent if I were you

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                    mirrorwitch@awful.systems
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                    load-bearing “fairly”

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                    • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                      Weirdly, the moon might actually be more hostile that mars… the dust is sharper, the gravity is lower, the radiation is worse, the nights are longer and colder, there’s less water…

                      It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

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                      tinytimmytokyo@awful.systems
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                      It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

                      There’s also a better chance that Elon exits the planet sooner.

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                      • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                        Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                        Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                        Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                        If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                        The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                        Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                        (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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                        nfultz@awful.systems
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                        I did a five line PR to a little shell util I’ve used for a decade or so, and bickered with the stupid PR bot. Fuck you kody, you have bad taste, go away, go back to enterprise.

                        I want to force feed it Worse is Better until it chokes, surely that’s in its corpus somewhere.

                        ok done venting

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                        • v0ldek@awful.systemsV v0ldek@awful.systems

                          Given it’s the Moon a better comparison would be a Greenland colony in EU5 where it costs gold initially and then costs your precious sanity, as you are doomed to ship tonnes and tonnes of food and materials there for centuries because there is nothing fucking there and the whole endeavour was a huge mistake.

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                          soyweiser@awful.systems
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                          Have not done eu5 so didnt know they improved the system. But indeed.

                          Not that it matters for the pro let billionaires colonize space crowd. As some thing some thing ai robots are magic. See also how they are planning datacenters in space, and dont think there is a real solution for the whole ‘what if you need to flip a switch or replace a fan’ problem.

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                            Have not done eu5 so didnt know they improved the system. But indeed.

                            Not that it matters for the pro let billionaires colonize space crowd. As some thing some thing ai robots are magic. See also how they are planning datacenters in space, and dont think there is a real solution for the whole ‘what if you need to flip a switch or replace a fan’ problem.

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                            v0ldek@awful.systems
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                            The moment I’ve learnt chuds like Musk and Sammy Boi treat the speed of light as just a thing that they can solve with sufficient computational power I started treating all their claims like a 5yo talking shit. It’s really all you need to know about them.

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                            • v0ldek@awful.systemsV v0ldek@awful.systems

                              The moment I’ve learnt chuds like Musk and Sammy Boi treat the speed of light as just a thing that they can solve with sufficient computational power I started treating all their claims like a 5yo talking shit. It’s really all you need to know about them.

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                              gerikson@awful.systems
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                              wasn’t Musk financing people who were gonna “hack the simulation” at one point?

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                              • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                The whole thing’s worth reading, but this snippet in particular deserves attention:

                                Tech companies have done everything they can to maximise the potential harms of generative models because in doing so they think they’re maximising their own personal benefit.

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                                flere-imsaho
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                                it’s full of quotable bangers like this, and it’s hard to choose the one to quote, right.

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                                • tinytimmytokyo@awful.systemsT tinytimmytokyo@awful.systems

                                  It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

                                  There’s also a better chance that Elon exits the planet sooner.

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                                  rook@awful.systems
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                                  He hasn’t even done a suborbital flight yet, has he? I don’t seem him being brave enough to even get as far as the moon, even assuming he’s healthy enough.

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                                    You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

                                    what if the moon got mad tho

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                                    yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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                                    Tell Luna you’ve been a bad boy/girl/etc and need to be punished and see what she does.

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                                      Tell Luna you’ve been a bad boy/girl/etc and need to be punished and see what she does.

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                                      froztbyte@awful.systems
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                                      on first reading I thought you were talking about a specific luna (who I shall not tag here) but who is definitely somewhat of a kinkposter

                                      still might mean that, haha

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                                      • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                        Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                        Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                        Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                        If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                        The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                        Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                        (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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                                        sansruse@awful.systems
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                                        Anthropic safety research lead quits the field entirely to write poetry with a somewhat cryptic note. Trying to read between the lines here, the most likely explanation (IMO) is that he developed a guilty conscience and anthropic doesn’t actually give a shit about any of the human harms created by the technology. Ah well, nevertheless they persisted.

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                                        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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