suppose

Supposed.

let their emotions cast their votes[.] Conservatives aren’t much better but we would’ve likely seen a different change of approach on how things are [run].

No. We would have seen the cons capitulate completely and invite our new king. What part of everything the cons have done over 40nyears gives a different impression?

NDP

Had no chance of winning even a minority. And they won’t, as long as we need to focus on not getting conservatives driving our country into the dirt like they’ve done to our cousins in America.

It’s so tedious to repeat this.

I’m not sure if we’ll replace him just yet. He has to show that he’s tried all reasonable avenues and if he does and Trump still fucks us, then he comes out and says - I tried all I could, now we’ll have to take these unprecedented steps to prevent economic meltdown. I think in such a scenario Canadians would rally behind him and consent to COVID-like economic supports among other things, even WWII style policies around prices controls, taxes and so on, depending on how bad things get. The other parties would also be forced to support him because it would look pretty bad if they stood against taking care of Canadians during an economic crisis.

Replaced by the Conservatives who will try even harder to do everything Trump wants, because they have always wanted to turn Canada into the USA? We’re in a bit of a sticky spot here.

Feels like all I can do at this point is to continue to not buy American.

Change needs to come from the bottom-up.

Carney is a clown who should’ve been given a much smaller majority.

Grassroots actions will overtake Carney’s poor decisions.

It will not work. It never works. Trump is a bully. When in the history of the universe has capitulating to a bully ever resulted in a fair deal?

I’m not sure pissing off bullies leads to fair deals either. I’m thinking Carney isn’t trying to get a good deal, but to avoid a trade war. Hell, Trump could order air strikes on Canada. He did it with Iran. Probably best not to piss him off. $2 billion in tax would be great but the government can also just print $2 billion if they really wanted to.

I have started self hosting a lot of things, and using Canadian hosting for my passwords and domain.

Conservatives would do the same thing

What makes you think that he won’t further a trade war or drop bombs on Vancouver if we do give him everything he wants? Placating bullies doesn’t pacify them, it emboldens them. Canada should be pushing back against the US and dragging the rest of the world with us in the process. Instead, everyone is just falling in line while Trump walks all over us.

If we’re really lucky, we’ll get to keep some cosmetic sovereignty out of all of this, but I don’t like our chances.

What would you do? Cut trade entirely? Start a war? Millions of Canadians will suffer over a 3% tax on Facebook?

NDP was suppose to be the in-between of Liberal and Conservative

[citation needed]

Yes, I would have millions of Canadians suffer to maintain our right to set our own fiscal policy. The alternative is annexation. Have you seen what the US does to its own citizens? Can you imagine what they would do to Canada as a vassal state?

There’s no need to cut trade entirely, simply mirroring their tariffs would be sufficient. If they want lower tariffs, they know what they need to do.

Would I start a war? Obviously not, but I’m not going to fool myself into thinking I’m avoiding one by giving them everything they demand. It has, after all, never worked with any dictator ever in the history of the world. If war is coming, it’s because the Americans want it, and we should all be ready. That means building trade and military alliances with actual friends. I think re-tooling the nation’s economy on a war-footing would be a good idea too, but before we go that far, I think I’d adopt Doctorow’s advice and kill the legislation on digital locks. If the Americans want to treat us like enemies, they should see just what that means. We should “turn off the taps” for oil, gas, and electricity and start encouraging high-skilled Americans to resettle in Canada.

This could be a great opportunity for us: reverse the brain drain and get out from under the US thumb. They’ve demonstrated that there’s no way to deal with them fairly, so now the alternative, albeit the more difficult route, is the only viable option.

There wouldn’t have even been a charade of standing up under the cons

CACO?

Carney Always Chickens Out

I can’t believe “I would have millions of Canadians suffer” is getting upvotes…never change internet.

Pretty sure that was a given. Doesn’t need to be said.

Protonmail, Tuta, NorthMail for email. Lemmy obviously (instead of Reddit), Gander for social media. Next is google, Microsoft, azure, SharePoint. I already don’t have Amazon or Netflix. I use wirenine for webhosting and the servers are in Montreal.