Yes, end those subscriptions to US services, boycott US companies, do the work that Carney won’t do.

I don’t like it either, but stroking Trump’s ego and not doing anything to set him off is probably a better strategy than telling him to go fuck himself. Although I really really hope it works out. If Carney doesn’t get a win the Liberals are going to be replaced real quick.

It will not work. It never works. Trump is a bully. When in the history of the universe has capitulating to a bully ever resulted in a fair deal?

Good on you! I have been cancelling everything American and moving my digital services to Europe.

Liberals will never save us. Unfortunately the electoral system screws us.

I’m not sure pissing off bullies leads to fair deals either. I’m thinking Carney isn’t trying to get a good deal, but to avoid a trade war. Hell, Trump could order air strikes on Canada. He did it with Iran. Probably best not to piss him off. $2 billion in tax would be great but the government can also just print $2 billion if they really wanted to.

What makes you think that he won’t further a trade war or drop bombs on Vancouver if we do give him everything he wants? Placating bullies doesn’t pacify them, it emboldens them. Canada should be pushing back against the US and dragging the rest of the world with us in the process. Instead, everyone is just falling in line while Trump walks all over us.

If we’re really lucky, we’ll get to keep some cosmetic sovereignty out of all of this, but I don’t like our chances.

This is exactly what people voted for. People hate trump so much that they let their emotions cast their votes, Conservatives aren’t much better but we would’ve likely seen a different change of approach on how things are ran.

NDP was suppose to be the in-between of Liberal and Conservative however, they’re far more Liberal than Conservative so it makes sense that their party isn’t crazy popular.

What would you do? Cut trade entirely? Start a war? Millions of Canadians will suffer over a 3% tax on Facebook?

Conservatives would do the same thing

Yes, I would have millions of Canadians suffer to maintain our right to set our own fiscal policy. The alternative is annexation. Have you seen what the US does to its own citizens? Can you imagine what they would do to Canada as a vassal state?

There’s no need to cut trade entirely, simply mirroring their tariffs would be sufficient. If they want lower tariffs, they know what they need to do.

Would I start a war? Obviously not, but I’m not going to fool myself into thinking I’m avoiding one by giving them everything they demand. It has, after all, never worked with any dictator ever in the history of the world. If war is coming, it’s because the Americans want it, and we should all be ready. That means building trade and military alliances with actual friends. I think re-tooling the nation’s economy on a war-footing would be a good idea too, but before we go that far, I think I’d adopt Doctorow’s advice and kill the legislation on digital locks. If the Americans want to treat us like enemies, they should see just what that means. We should “turn off the taps” for oil, gas, and electricity and start encouraging high-skilled Americans to resettle in Canada.

This could be a great opportunity for us: reverse the brain drain and get out from under the US thumb. They’ve demonstrated that there’s no way to deal with them fairly, so now the alternative, albeit the more difficult route, is the only viable option.

Conservatives would do the same thing

Good on you! I have been cancelling everything American and moving my digital services to Europe.

Time to organize the protests. I’ve been considering a long term visit to Ottawa. Who is a protest leader there so I can get in the loop?

I wonder how many of the “fuck Trudeau” people are upset about this tax being dropped…which was introduced by Trudeau

Now I hear the angry noises here, and I’m pretty angry myself, but I’m hoping that this is one elbow down so we can get something for it, like keeping supply management. If we get fucked on all fronts then… Yeah. Fuck.

I’m not sure pissing off bullies leads to fair deals either. I’m thinking Carney isn’t trying to get a good deal, but to avoid a trade war. Hell, Trump could order air strikes on Canada. He did it with Iran. Probably best not to piss him off. $2 billion in tax would be great but the government can also just print $2 billion if they really wanted to.

I’ll protest if it’s organized by unions. I’m not doing any kkklownvoy shit.

The clownvoy unfortunately was so effective in disruption it caused reasonable Canadians to question actual protest pretty hard. That it was organized by complete idiots for fucked up reasons is terrible. As protesters however we certainly could learn from their actions.