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  • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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    Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

    Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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    Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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    arankays@lemmy.ca
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    I can’t believe Carney was a spineless liberal moron all along! Who knew?

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    • U unbanshee@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      Mine’s a cabinet minister 🤢

      Like I’m emailing anyway but it’s gonna be swiftly ignored.

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      reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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      Maybe I will email mine then if you know nothing is going to happen? Brad Reddicop is a joke and a conservative.

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      • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

        Lol, A) it’s pretty clear you have no idea what the DST is and what it does.

        B) Jesus lord, for most offices, converting off Microsoft would be an insane task and a huge IT cost.

        I know Lemmy skews young but this is nonsensical.

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        funkajunk
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        Yeah, as someone who works in Enterprise environments, I don’t understand where this attitude that it would be easy is coming from.

        Fully migrating off those services could take years for some organizations, just like it took years to get them to the level of functionality and interconnectivity they are at today.

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        • K karlhungus@lemmy.ca

          Why is dst stupid?

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          oderus@lemmy.world
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          The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary. We depend on US content so much you couldn’t possibly function on the internet without it. It’ll force the US to limit services so we’ll be forced to use Chinese or European services and for what benefit? I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

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          • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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            Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

            Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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            CityNews Vancouver (vancouver.citynews.ca)

            Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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            9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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            #41

            Carney
            Always
            Chickens
            Out

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            • oderus@lemmy.worldO oderus@lemmy.world

              The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary. We depend on US content so much you couldn’t possibly function on the internet without it. It’ll force the US to limit services so we’ll be forced to use Chinese or European services and for what benefit? I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

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              karlhungus@lemmy.ca
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              The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary.

              What?! 3% We pay 8.79% on our income here. Three seems low.

              I feel like no facebook in canada would be a net positive, especially after reading “Carless people”. I don’t even think that would happen, it’s not like these companies can’t afford it, they just don’t want to set a precedent, and they spent all that money on trump!

              I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

              You never use Amazon? I also use an adblocker and a pihole i think i see relatively fewer ads, i still see them.

              The one negative i can think of coming out of this is the companies passing the tax on to us, i suspect that wouldn’t happen.

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              • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

                The cavalier attitude is a big give away. Usually folks worried about their kids and mortgages understand the costs.

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                landedgentry@lemmy.zip
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                And you would know because you are also impacted?

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                  And you would know because you are also impacted?

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                  mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                  No, I guess being well read and having empathy kind of allow me to consider how things affect other Canadians who are not me?

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                  • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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                    Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

                    Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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                    CityNews Vancouver (vancouver.citynews.ca)

                    Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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                    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    #45

                    Yep, I’m slightly upset. Does he actually think something worthwhile is going to come out of the negotiations?

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                    • F funkajunk

                      Yeah, as someone who works in Enterprise environments, I don’t understand where this attitude that it would be easy is coming from.

                      Fully migrating off those services could take years for some organizations, just like it took years to get them to the level of functionality and interconnectivity they are at today.

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                      mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                      The attitude is coming from wishful thinking untempered by knowledge or experience.

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                      • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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                        Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

                        Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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                        CityNews Vancouver (vancouver.citynews.ca)

                        Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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                        lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca
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                        Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                        • J jumi@lemmy.world

                          Just a sidenote, Austria was as much victim as it was perpetrator under the nazi regime.

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                          neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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                          Sure, after they were a perpetrator and supported them for literally the entire war, they fell victim. Just like Russia, etc.

                          You don’t get to side with Nazi’s/fascists even once, and then claim victim-hood.

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                          • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

                            Maybe I will email mine then if you know nothing is going to happen? Brad Reddicop is a joke and a conservative.

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                            k0e3@lemmy.ca
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                            Reddicop is the perfect name for a shitty Reddit mod.

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                            • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

                              No, I guess being well read and having empathy kind of allow me to consider how things affect other Canadians who are not me?

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                              k0e3@lemmy.ca
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                              Oh God you’re insufferable.

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                              • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

                                Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                                patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                                It only applies to a few enormous corporations, that mostly generate revenue through ad sales.

                                Would Canadian companies really all have increased their Facebook ad budgets over this? I kinda doubt it, tbh

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                                • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                                  Oh God you’re insufferable.

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                                  mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                                  And correct.

                                  So far, the replies have been “everyone should just drop all American services, that’s a minor detail for IT” and “a trillion dollar trade negotiation isn’t actually about jobs.”

                                  I get the kneejerk reaction but damn, this is silly bordering on depressing.

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                                  • 9 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works

                                    Carney
                                    Always
                                    Chickens
                                    Out

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                                    m0op0o@mander.xyz
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                                    Carney

                                    Often

                                    Cancels

                                    Knowingly

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                                    • N neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works

                                      Sure, after they were a perpetrator and supported them for literally the entire war, they fell victim. Just like Russia, etc.

                                      You don’t get to side with Nazi’s/fascists even once, and then claim victim-hood.

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                                      saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Austria was annexed before the war.

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                                      • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

                                        Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                                        circav@lemmy.ca
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                                        Then why would Trump object to it then?

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                                        • U unbanshee@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          Mine’s a cabinet minister 🤢

                                          Like I’m emailing anyway but it’s gonna be swiftly ignored.

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                                          aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Try sending an actual written letter: maybe it will be a little bit attention because in this day and age of e-mail, it’s actual paper letters that are oddities that get people’s attention.

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