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  • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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    Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

    Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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    Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    #45

    Yep, I’m slightly upset. Does he actually think something worthwhile is going to come out of the negotiations?

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    • F funkajunk

      Yeah, as someone who works in Enterprise environments, I don’t understand where this attitude that it would be easy is coming from.

      Fully migrating off those services could take years for some organizations, just like it took years to get them to the level of functionality and interconnectivity they are at today.

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      mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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      The attitude is coming from wishful thinking untempered by knowledge or experience.

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      • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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        Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

        Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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        Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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        lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca
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        #47

        Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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        • J jumi@lemmy.world

          Just a sidenote, Austria was as much victim as it was perpetrator under the nazi regime.

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          neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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          Sure, after they were a perpetrator and supported them for literally the entire war, they fell victim. Just like Russia, etc.

          You don’t get to side with Nazi’s/fascists even once, and then claim victim-hood.

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          • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

            Maybe I will email mine then if you know nothing is going to happen? Brad Reddicop is a joke and a conservative.

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            k0e3@lemmy.ca
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            Reddicop is the perfect name for a shitty Reddit mod.

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            • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

              No, I guess being well read and having empathy kind of allow me to consider how things affect other Canadians who are not me?

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              k0e3@lemmy.ca
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              Oh God you’re insufferable.

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              • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

                Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                #51

                It only applies to a few enormous corporations, that mostly generate revenue through ad sales.

                Would Canadian companies really all have increased their Facebook ad budgets over this? I kinda doubt it, tbh

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                • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                  Oh God you’re insufferable.

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                  mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                  And correct.

                  So far, the replies have been “everyone should just drop all American services, that’s a minor detail for IT” and “a trillion dollar trade negotiation isn’t actually about jobs.”

                  I get the kneejerk reaction but damn, this is silly bordering on depressing.

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                  • 9 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works

                    Carney
                    Always
                    Chickens
                    Out

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                    m0op0o@mander.xyz
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                    #53

                    Carney

                    Often

                    Cancels

                    Knowingly

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                    • N neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works

                      Sure, after they were a perpetrator and supported them for literally the entire war, they fell victim. Just like Russia, etc.

                      You don’t get to side with Nazi’s/fascists even once, and then claim victim-hood.

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                      saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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                      #54

                      Austria was annexed before the war.

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                      • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

                        Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                        circav@lemmy.ca
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                        Then why would Trump object to it then?

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                        • U unbanshee@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Mine’s a cabinet minister 🤢

                          Like I’m emailing anyway but it’s gonna be swiftly ignored.

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                          aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Try sending an actual written letter: maybe it will be a little bit attention because in this day and age of e-mail, it’s actual paper letters that are oddities that get people’s attention.

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                          • J jhex@lemmy.world

                            We don’t know what the final trade agreement will be.

                            It doesn’t matter since Trump can reneg on it at any moment as he did with the previous one

                            What Carney did here is signal trump that he will chicken out even faster than trump does at any tartrum he throws

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                            aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            CACO beats TACO.

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                            • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

                              Then why would Trump object to it then?

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                              madcaesar@lemmy.world
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                              Becuase it maaaaaaybe dissuades SOME people from buying the service so there’s maaaaaaybe less revenue for the mega corps.

                              So yea… It maybe kinda sorta… Hurts mega corps, but it absolutely is a tax paid by Canadians.

                              Now you might say the tax is good because it funds shit for Canadians, but that’s a separate argument.

                              So yea, this is maybe? good for Canadians, since Canadians are getting absolutely FUCKED by anything digital / mobile / internet related.

                              If anything I’d love to see the Canadian market forced open for US telecoms, because as shitty as telecom is in the US its far FAR worse in Canada.

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                              • A arankays@lemmy.ca

                                I can’t believe Carney was a spineless liberal moron all along! Who knew?

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                                madcaesar@lemmy.world
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                                I mean… On the things to cave on… Caving on a tax paid by CANADIANS is not the worst thing in the world.

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                                • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

                                  No, I guess being well read and having empathy kind of allow me to consider how things affect other Canadians who are not me?

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                                  landedgentry@lemmy.zip
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                                  So despite the fact that you don’t have proximity to the issue, you’re able to use your reasoning and knowledge of the matter to come up with a valid opinion we all have to respect. But you assume I am not in close proximity to the issue, so I’m not allowed to do that. Is that about right? Just want to make sure we’re on the same page here

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                                  • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

                                    And correct.

                                    So far, the replies have been “everyone should just drop all American services, that’s a minor detail for IT” and “a trillion dollar trade negotiation isn’t actually about jobs.”

                                    I get the kneejerk reaction but damn, this is silly bordering on depressing.

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                                    landedgentry@lemmy.zip
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                                    and correct

                                    So far, the replies have been “everyone should just drop all American services, that’s a minor detail for IT” and “a trillion dollar trade negotiation isn’t actually about jobs.”

                                    Incorrect.

                                    That is not what I said at all.

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                                    • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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                                      Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

                                      Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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                                      Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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                                      buske@lemmy.world
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                                      Welp big group, none of us are in it. Time to dig some infrastructure.

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                                      • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

                                        This seems really premature. I dislike Carney’s policies for a bunch of reasons, but it’s premature to shit on him for this. We don’t know what the final trade agreement will be.

                                        The last time Trump threw one of these tantrums, NAFTA morphed into USMCA without much of a hit to our economy (afaiu). If our government can repeat that success while we’re diversifying our economy away from the US then that’s a win.

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                                        disaster@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Well, there was this thing a couple of weeks ago when international law as well as agreed upon nuclear safeguards and processes were well and truly shredded by a genocidal maniac, then he came out tutting against the guys that got attacked out of the blue just like every other G7 lapdog. So far, unimpressed.

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                                        • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

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                                          Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax

                                          Less than 48 hours before Canada Day and in the face of annexation threats from the White House, the federal government dropped a bombshell.

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                                          Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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                                          ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                                          He needs to resign

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