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  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksO ohshit604@sh.itjust.works

    Trump has a criminal record, this has been fought in the past by previous presidents, anyone with a known criminal record cannot enter Canada legally.

    Edit: I had to fact check myself and I may be wrong here, have always been under the impression that any convicted criminal cannot enter our country.

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    madmadbunny@lemmy.ca
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    But they will make very rare exceptions…

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      Canada like many other countries lied about it.

      https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/the-controversy-over-canadas-rules-on-military-exports-to-israel-explained/

      It’s much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.

      Canadian serving under the IDF

      Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.

      Yes, I’d like the government to do more.

      But, that is different from the government not following international law.

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      mrdown@lemmy.world
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      It’s much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.

      Nice excuses like usual . I don’t care how complicated it is. Israel is committing serious human right abuses almost every day against Palestinians similar to North Korea. I don’t want such a terrible trade partner for Canada

      Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.

      Even if it was one. Canada is not respecting it’s own laws yet you still makes dumb excuses about it .

      But, that is different from the government not following international law.

      Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.

      If Canada don’t want to care about it maybe it should simply drop sanctions on all the countries they have sanctions on that is not a direct and imminent threat to Canadian security itself

      Yes, I’d like the government to do more. With all the excuses you spew I don’t think I can believe you on that

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        It’s much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.

        Nice excuses like usual . I don’t care how complicated it is. Israel is committing serious human right abuses almost every day against Palestinians similar to North Korea. I don’t want such a terrible trade partner for Canada

        Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.

        Even if it was one. Canada is not respecting it’s own laws yet you still makes dumb excuses about it .

        But, that is different from the government not following international law.

        Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.

        If Canada don’t want to care about it maybe it should simply drop sanctions on all the countries they have sanctions on that is not a direct and imminent threat to Canadian security itself

        Yes, I’d like the government to do more. With all the excuses you spew I don’t think I can believe you on that

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        MyBrainHurts
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        Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.

        We seem to be talking about different things. I am pointing out that Canada is meeting its legal obligations. You are angry Canada isn’t doing more.

        These are fundamentally different conversations.

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          Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.

          We seem to be talking about different things. I am pointing out that Canada is meeting its legal obligations. You are angry Canada isn’t doing more.

          These are fundamentally different conversations.

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          mrdown@lemmy.world
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          Providing weapons from a genocidal state is meeting it’s legal obligation? Having a law prohibiting Canadian to serve under a foreign state and not applying it is not a breach of it’s legal obligation? You are not serious at all

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            Providing weapons from a genocidal state is meeting it’s legal obligation? Having a law prohibiting Canadian to serve under a foreign state and not applying it is not a breach of it’s legal obligation? You are not serious at all

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            MyBrainHurts
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            We’ve already been over this:

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              We’ve already been over this:

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              mrdown@lemmy.world
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              Yeah your arguments was so weak that it is both frustrating and laughable at the same time. Frustrating because Palestinian lives are so cheap for western countries and Arab countries that collaborate with Israel and you. Funny because they are all terrible excuses

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              • M mrdown@lemmy.world

                Yeah your arguments was so weak that it is both frustrating and laughable at the same time. Frustrating because Palestinian lives are so cheap for western countries and Arab countries that collaborate with Israel and you. Funny because they are all terrible excuses

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                MyBrainHurts
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                Wanting the government to do more does not make its actions illegal.

                Read the article for an explanation on the arms sales.

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                • M MyBrainHurts

                  Wanting the government to do more does not make its actions illegal.

                  Read the article for an explanation on the arms sales.

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                  mrdown@lemmy.world
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                  I read the article. It doesn’t deny that Canada is still selling weapons to Israel . I don’t care how difficult or complex it is, selling weapons to genocidal state is being complicit about the most severe war crime ever. Canadians serving the idf when it is prohibited is also a breach of international laws and Canadian law. How hard is for you to understand such a simple logic?

                  Hell, Canada did even ignored the selling of lands in the occupied west bank in Synagogues. Canada claim to oppose settlements while allowing that.

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                  • M mrdown@lemmy.world

                    I read the article. It doesn’t deny that Canada is still selling weapons to Israel . I don’t care how difficult or complex it is, selling weapons to genocidal state is being complicit about the most severe war crime ever. Canadians serving the idf when it is prohibited is also a breach of international laws and Canadian law. How hard is for you to understand such a simple logic?

                    Hell, Canada did even ignored the selling of lands in the occupied west bank in Synagogues. Canada claim to oppose settlements while allowing that.

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                    MyBrainHurts
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                    Hell, Canada did even ignored the selling of lands in the occupied west bank in Synagogues. Canada claim to oppose settlements while allowing that.

                    I have no idea what you are trying to say, I’m guessing you’re fairly drunk.

                    Goodnight.

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                    • M MyBrainHurts

                      Hell, Canada did even ignored the selling of lands in the occupied west bank in Synagogues. Canada claim to oppose settlements while allowing that.

                      I have no idea what you are trying to say, I’m guessing you’re fairly drunk.

                      Goodnight.

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                      mrdown@lemmy.world
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                      I am not drunk and you have no brain

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                        Captain Aggravated
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                        Well don’t say it. Now he won’t go.

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                        • B beejboytyson@lemmy.world

                          Fuck international law it’s the worst thing to happen to the world

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                          arnitbier@sh.itjust.works
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                          Like in what way? Were you “just saying” or something else like that (eg: talking out emotions without the prerequisite logic to back it up and give it any actual meaning) cause thats for sure what it sounded like

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                          • A arnitbier@sh.itjust.works

                            Like in what way? Were you “just saying” or something else like that (eg: talking out emotions without the prerequisite logic to back it up and give it any actual meaning) cause thats for sure what it sounded like

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                            beejboytyson@lemmy.world
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                            It’s doesn’t allow countries to retain their sovereignty, it only serves to punish, not help. The UN, which hasn’t help prevent any key conflicts in the last 100 years is an abject failure. Furthermore, is mainly enforced by the US and I don’t trust modern day Rome to “keep the peace”.

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                              melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                              We’ve come a long way in a short period. It wasn’t so long ago we were holding the Chinese Huawei exec Meng Wanzhou for our American ex-friends. This hurt our relationship with China big time.

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                              • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksO ohshit604@sh.itjust.works

                                Trump has a criminal record, this has been fought in the past by previous presidents, anyone with a known criminal record cannot enter Canada legally.

                                Edit: I had to fact check myself and I may be wrong here, have always been under the impression that any convicted criminal cannot enter our country.

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                                medic8teme@lemmy.ca
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                                Trump already entered Canada with a record for the G7 in K country. You may have missed it cause the “leaders” were well sheltered from actual people and cameras.

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                                  aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  Didn’t his government not pass a law that they claimed stopped the sending of weapons to Israel only to turn out it didn’t at all do so?

                                  Mind you, I’m not Canadian and my experience with Mr Carney is him being the head of the Bank Of England when I lived in the UK, and I wouldn’t believe this guy if he told me the sky is blue.

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                                  • M MyBrainHurts

                                    the lowest bar of effort.

                                    This feels a bit disingenuous.

                                    We’re in the middle of trade negotiations that affect a huge swathe of jobs etc with an aggressively pro Israel leader. Considering donald’s capriciousness and willingness to punish allies for ideological disagreement, this actually feels like a bit of a ballsy statement.

                                    If I were on the US relations file, I’d be praying no one related this to trump etc.

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                                    Daniel Quinn
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                                    There is no appeasing a tyrant, only resistance.

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                                      In today’s day and age, upholding the law presents itself as some remarkable competence.

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                                      aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Even better: saying he will uphold the law if ever a certain criminal goes to the country he governs, presents itself as some remarkable competence.

                                      He can always find an excuse to weasel his way out of his own words if Netanyahu ever does go to Canada.

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                                        Well don’t say it. Now he won’t go.

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                                        devanismyname@lazysoci.al
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                                        Hes giving him a heads up.

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                                          shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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                                          Time stamp is 27:00 though not a lot is said. Mishal asks if, like Justin Trudeau, he would honor ICC arrest warrants and he says yes.

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