Its a mixed bag here, but many people do not. Commuters usually do, but people riding for fun or not going long distances don’t tend to. On my commute I see a lot of people with actual motorcycle or dirtbike helmets though, which I hope to get one day since I only have a bike helmet.

When I visited Mexico City earlier this year I was horrified to see people riding scooters with no protection through the insane traffic there. People there don’t even stop for pedestrians, I cant imagine how dangerous it’d be to ride a scooter or bike.

I’ve been hit as a pedestrian that many times.

I don’t have bad luck, I’ve just walk a lot in the last 40 years; 2 of the scooter and one of the bicycles happened on pedestrian streets and the riders were making eye contact with me. Guess they though I would move. They thought wrong and didn’t account that I stable base when about to get hit.

The last scooter hit was in a blind corner, but low speed, so I was able the hug the guy to stop him from falling (skill I learned on the blind corners of the LG metro stop when two trains roll in simultaneously). The last bicycle hit has someone riding on a sidewalk assuming I’d move onto the road for them while jogging. I didn’t move for them, and they miscalculated the physics of about 300N the edge of their handlebars.

For the cars, one was a driver hopping a curb, knocking me into a park. Cop said they wouldn’t follow up because I didn’t have a plate. One was a car turning right on red when I had a pedestrian walk signal, cop said RtOR is legal so I should have been looking out for the car. Last one was a plow pick-up backing into a crosswalk (and me) to turn around; while I had a plate and a witness that time, cops said their investigation couldn’t confirm the truck hit me, I might have just slipped on the ice.

You’ll also notice that 5/6 low speeds i could have avoided, but chose not to, while i had 0 agency in all three car collisions.

The carving space out of the Commons part means we should be segregating bikes and scooters from pedestrians, but at the cost of car space, not sidewalk.

Base jumping off an EUC obviously safer.

That’s wild I’m sorry that’s happened to you so many times and that the cops have been so shitty about it. Thanks for the explanation.

So I just heard on the radio this morning that youth injures from scooters are up 60% over last year.

I live in Albany, NY. I commute on an eBike, in the road, with a helment and follow the traffic laws. My bike even has brake lights and turn signals. Now that school is out, I’m seeing kids and teens riding eBikes and eScooters without protective gear, out in the road not following traffic law at all. I’ve had a few near misses where I almost hit them on my eBike because they are running red lights. It pisses me off so much because they aren’t just endangering themselves, they are endangering me. A part of me wants regulation, but the other part of me knows that regulation is just going to increase the cost of using small, speed capped eVehicles. (Many of these scooters and bikes have motors where the top speed is 20-30 MPH.) I am not stopping to administer aide to anyone hurt riding an eVehicle that openly breaks traffic law.

Oh no, a new cheap and efficient method of green travel accessible to the masses! Better spin some fear propaganda to kill that

I would love to see an age distribution for these injuries, because I see food delivery workers in Toronto every day who are riding scooters with completely disregard for their own life. It’s just non-stop the most dangerous, dumb shit, and I’m like… do they just not realize the danger? Or do they need to shave every second off that delivery and constantly cut corners to make a living wage?

I suspect that scooters have similar risks as bicycles, more dangerous than cars for non-lethal injuries, less dangerous for lethal injury. And nearly all lethal injury, like 99%, directly related to cars and trucks. Cars are more lethal to drive on a highway than bikes are to ride on city streets. I bet scooter are basically the same, the biggest risk is automobiles.

I’m big, so id rather it happen to me than someone else.