I have two cats, littermates. One will almost never scratch you, usually happens if play gets too vigorous and he forgets. The other will lightly scratch you just to get your attention, and will dig his claws into your lap if he’s enjoying petting too much. I love them both, even when they are being pains in the ass.

Im sorry the world is uglier than you think it should be, but having that attitude and capping it off with an implication that it’s okay to cause another being lifelong pain simply because of their nature makes it pretty clear that you don’t so much want a more ethical world for other creatures as much as you don’t like cats.

Cats who get declawed are generally indoor cats who wouldn’t hurt anything but their owner’s furniture regardless.

Also cats are obligate carnivores, and you’re an asshole.

We would never consider it because we had kids and dogs and the cats needed their claws. But yes it should be banned. We don’t declaw dogs.

I wish we’d trained them to sit still to have them trimmed, as now the kids are grown and dogs not puppies either, but it’s no big deal. Just don’t get expensive furniture.

Nope. You’re ignorant of biology. Enzymes have been on the market for a looong time

I know you might mean well because giving cats vegan diets with enzymes appears to reduce animal suffering, but consider for a moment that cats cannot speak to us. Cats are proficient at hiding their pain, and they cannot tell us if their vegan diet is making them ill.

The best thing you can do to reduce animal suffering as a vegan is not to have children. Creating fewer humans objectively decreases consumption, ethical and unethical. Have a cat, eat meat, do whatever you want, but nothing will have a greater impact on this planet than to help lower its population. Heck, even murder reduces animal suffering if you don’t consider humans an animal.

I’m just saying that vegan cat food is very far down on the list of effective vegan practices, and it is certainly not ethical because you cannot determine the magnitude of harm it can cause your cat.

You take up air others should be breathing, but we let you live.

It’s illegal in a lot of regions. Maybe list the ones where it’s not.

I started buying the paste tubes. Our cats go nuts for them. I started giving them one after I clip their nails. Now, they complain and still try to pull away, but they don’t run away anymore when I grab the clippers.

Declawing cats should be called “cutting the fingers off of cats so they can’t scratch anymore”.

USA! USA! USA!

I hope you stick to pet rabbists and guinea pigs, my friend. It’s okay to be vegan, but if you’re vegan and are against the type of food cats and dogs need to survive, just don’t get a cat or a dog. It is very simple. They are not vegans. They never will be vegan and forcing them to be vegan is not very vegan if we still live by the idea that veganism is against animal abuse. Would you force a penguin to eat vegetables too?

Are vegans allowed to keep pets?

I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

I wonder about this, but in regards to the housing crisis. It’s hell trying to find a new place to live, but trying to find an affordable place that ALSO allows pets? As someone looking for a home myself, it seems like almost everywhere has “No pets, no smoking” as a rule.

I don’t have a pet so it doesn’t apply to me now, but I know people stuck in a shitty apartment that’s falling apart, just because they adopted a puppy (of unknown breed origins) a few years ago. That puppy grew, and now even places that allow pets say that he’s too large to be permitted.

I would love to adopt a pet. But this human housing situation spells bad news for strays and shelter pets everywhere.

Because the sole reason for having animals is the emotional fulfillment of humans, however much it is dressed up as “for the animals.” So whatever is annoying about these little fur balls is just removed as it serves no purpose.

We don’t declaw dogs? Removing the dew claw is very common on dogs.

There ya go

Oh, didn’t realise this was a Canada sub.

Ontario still allows it apparently. Get your shit together Ontario!

My dude, others simply don’t see the beauty of this shitpost. Marvelous

That one doesn’t help them, though. I just mean the dogs are all scratching up everyone’s floors, but then they declaw the cats? I can get a couch cheaper than getting the floors refinished. And puppies CHEW stuff too. Our dogs have done more damage than our cats.