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Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

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  • quick_snail@feddit.nlQ quick_snail@feddit.nl

    How much pain do you think most cats cause others, simply for existing?

    We also need to ban non-vegan cat food

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    kornblumenratte@feddit.org
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    Are vegans allowed to keep pets?

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    • R reluctantmuskrat@lemmy.world

      I mean historically people didn’t necessarily think of it as mutilation, even if now most people understand it to be extreme. Many cats have bad scratching habits and people don’t know to train their cats not to do so. Some will definitely trash your furniture and people looked at de-clawing as a way to stop it vs giving up the cat for adoptuon. Are all cats even trainable to not scratch? I don’t know personally.

      I’m kind of curious how banning declawing of cats influences rates of abandonment and euthanization. I had many cats when I was younger, some which were bad scratchers and got de-clawed and others which weren’t prone to it so didn’t get de-clawed. I’d like to get one now but know my wife (and I probably) won’t be able to tolerate our furniture and drapes getting tore up if I can’t train it not to, and I hate the idea of adopting one only to give it up later, so I’ll likely not get one at all. I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

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      whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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      I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

      I wonder about this, but in regards to the housing crisis. It’s hell trying to find a new place to live, but trying to find an affordable place that ALSO allows pets? As someone looking for a home myself, it seems like almost everywhere has “No pets, no smoking” as a rule.

      I don’t have a pet so it doesn’t apply to me now, but I know people stuck in a shitty apartment that’s falling apart, just because they adopted a puppy (of unknown breed origins) a few years ago. That puppy grew, and now even places that allow pets say that he’s too large to be permitted.

      I would love to adopt a pet. But this human housing situation spells bad news for strays and shelter pets everywhere.

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      • V voracitude@lemmy.world

        TIL 😱 Poor little kitties, why are humans so thoughtlessly monstrous?

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        Because the sole reason for having animals is the emotional fulfillment of humans, however much it is dressed up as “for the animals.” So whatever is annoying about these little fur balls is just removed as it serves no purpose.

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        • R rbwells@lemmy.world

          We would never consider it because we had kids and dogs and the cats needed their claws. But yes it should be banned. We don’t declaw dogs.

          I wish we’d trained them to sit still to have them trimmed, as now the kids are grown and dogs not puppies either, but it’s no big deal. Just don’t get expensive furniture.

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          auli@lemmy.ca
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          We don’t declaw dogs? Removing the dew claw is very common on dogs.

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          • blackmist@feddit.ukB blackmist@feddit.uk

            USA! USA! USA!

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            Phoenixz
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            There ya go

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              There ya go

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              blackmist@feddit.uk
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              Oh, didn’t realise this was a Canada sub.

              Ontario still allows it apparently. Get your shit together Ontario!

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              • quick_snail@feddit.nlQ quick_snail@feddit.nl

                How much pain do you think most cats cause others, simply for existing?

                We also need to ban non-vegan cat food

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                My dude, others simply don’t see the beauty of this shitpost. Marvelous

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                • A auli@lemmy.ca

                  We don’t declaw dogs? Removing the dew claw is very common on dogs.

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                  rbwells@lemmy.world
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                  That one doesn’t help them, though. I just mean the dogs are all scratching up everyone’s floors, but then they declaw the cats? I can get a couch cheaper than getting the floors refinished. And puppies CHEW stuff too. Our dogs have done more damage than our cats.

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                  • Otter RaftO Otter Raft

                    Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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                    Declawing cats causes them lifelong pain. It’s time to ban the practice

                    Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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                    slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works
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                    I thought they banned this like 20 years ago

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                      Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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                      • W whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world

                        I wonder if and how many get put down simply because fewer adopt them when de-clawing is banned.

                        I wonder about this, but in regards to the housing crisis. It’s hell trying to find a new place to live, but trying to find an affordable place that ALSO allows pets? As someone looking for a home myself, it seems like almost everywhere has “No pets, no smoking” as a rule.

                        I don’t have a pet so it doesn’t apply to me now, but I know people stuck in a shitty apartment that’s falling apart, just because they adopted a puppy (of unknown breed origins) a few years ago. That puppy grew, and now even places that allow pets say that he’s too large to be permitted.

                        I would love to adopt a pet. But this human housing situation spells bad news for strays and shelter pets everywhere.

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                        reluctantmuskrat@lemmy.world
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                        Renting and pets have always been a problem, and the higher the occupancy rate the less likely landlord’s allow pets. I certainly understand from a landlords perspective pets damage things and replacing all the carpet because cats pissed all over and the tenant didn’t care is expensive. But as you said, with housing what it is now there are even more people restricted from pet ownership than ever.

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                          Because the sole reason for having animals is the emotional fulfillment of humans, however much it is dressed up as “for the animals.” So whatever is annoying about these little fur balls is just removed as it serves no purpose.

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                          filcuk@lemmy.zip
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                          That argument can be applied to anything.
                          I want to make my wife happy, because her being happy makes me happy.
                          That’s all just human nature, and it’s okay as long as what we do doesn’t hurt others.

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                            Author: Eric Troncy | Douleur animale, bien-être animal, Université de Montréal

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                            Declawing cats causes irreversible nerve damage and chronic pain. New research from Quebec concludes it should be banned.

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                            moopet@sh.itjust.works
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                            When I first heard some countries did this it was like 20 years ago. I thought at the time it was news because they’d stopped - clearly I was wrong 😕

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                            • A apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca

                              It’s also super easy to clip a cats nails every other week. I have two cats and have fostered others, and I’ve clipped them all to keep the nails short and dull.

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                              I nip my cat’s back nails, not to shorten or blunt them but to encourage them to shed. She picks her post with her front claws and keeps them healthy, but she doesn’t really use her back nails for much so they don’t shed naturally and they get thick and crusty and dirty. Nipping just the tip of them encourages the outer layers to crack and shed. Izzy’s pretty sweet about it too, she’s okay with me handling her feet for a little bit but if she gets tired of it she’ll just try to put her feet in her pocket.

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                              • V vivalapivo@lemmy.today

                                It’s legal in Russia too, but it’s accepted as unethical and a few ostracized clinics can do the “soft paws” surgery

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                                swelter_spark@reddthat.com
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                                It’s uncommon enough here that it surprises me when someone has it done. I wish it was more widely understood that it’s harmful to them.

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