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'It's ridiculous': Why some Canadian youth feel ready to tap out of tipping culture

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    davriellelouna@lemmy.world
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      BeBopALouie
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      IMO if a company can’t afford to pay a decent wage they need to rework their business plan or get lost.

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        wirebeads@lemmy.ca
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        As an adult, I’ve also kicked tipping culture to the curb.

        I’m sorry, you want 10% tip to pour me a coffee and put a piece of coffee cake on a plate?

        As your boss that drives a high end luxury car to pay you more.

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          arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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          Oh cool, this means people are no longer patronizing establishments that have tip prompts as a way to show that they don’t support companies that reply on them to pay staff, right?

          Right?

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            themeatbridge
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            Cause nobody has any money, and people want to make decisions about paying for stuff based on how much stuff actually costs.

            Like if you went to a bookstore, and the book was $10, and you go to pay, and the store was like "akshually, if you don’t pay $12, the clerk doesn’t get paid, and the clerk is OK with that because maybe you’ll pay $13.

            If the book costs $12, then maybe I’m still interested in that price. But if I expect to pay $10, and then the amount is more, then I’m feeling differently about that delta.

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              some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
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              Ooh, can we do another collective “fuck this thing in particular” like we did and continue to do with all things US? We need to get good at this! Let’s just all stop tipping entirely because that tip jar might as well be labelled “donate to this company’s rich asshole owners to help them cover payroll this week”. It literally has nothing to do with service anymore, and its ubiquity is their bald face admission of that.

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              • arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineA arcanepotato@crazypeople.online

                Oh cool, this means people are no longer patronizing establishments that have tip prompts as a way to show that they don’t support companies that reply on them to pay staff, right?

                Right?

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                whiteoakbayou@lemmy.world
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                That was certainly my solution. If I end up in one I tip but I just avoid tipping places generally now.

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                  The absolute worst is self checkouts that have the audacity to ask for a tip. What fucking service?

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                    Cause nobody has any money, and people want to make decisions about paying for stuff based on how much stuff actually costs.

                    Like if you went to a bookstore, and the book was $10, and you go to pay, and the store was like "akshually, if you don’t pay $12, the clerk doesn’t get paid, and the clerk is OK with that because maybe you’ll pay $13.

                    If the book costs $12, then maybe I’m still interested in that price. But if I expect to pay $10, and then the amount is more, then I’m feeling differently about that delta.

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                    sulgoth@lemmy.world
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                    This is kinda my complaint with not adding the tax to the sticker price.

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                    • W wirebeads@lemmy.ca

                      As an adult, I’ve also kicked tipping culture to the curb.

                      I’m sorry, you want 10% tip to pour me a coffee and put a piece of coffee cake on a plate?

                      As your boss that drives a high end luxury car to pay you more.

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                      nima@leminal.space
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                      edited comment to appeal to the masses

                      yeah fuck restaurant employees! they’re morons for working restaurants!

                      what a bunch of cunts!

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                        cocaineshrimp@sh.itjust.works
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                        I’ve tapped out of tipping culture for multiple reasons.

                        1. I don’t tip at fast food joints because all you did was the bare minimum. Tipping is supposed to be rewarding for extra service. All you did was take my order and ask if I wanted fries with that.
                        2. Prices are going up, so more of the amount I would have expected to pay is going to the base meal. For regular food, I try to tip so the final price is around $15 or $20. I don’t want to pay $30 for a burger and fries
                        3. I’ve seen what tipping culture looks like when it gets out of hand. Go to the Hotel Zone in Mexico, and you’ll see what I mean. Nothing is genuine, everything is about milking the tourists. I was pretty disappointed by the end of the trip. Would not recommend.
                        4. The base % is going up to try and milk customers, so I’m putting in the effort to counter that bullshit by picking no tip.
                        5. Sometimes the tip doesn’t even go to the workers; Sometimes it goes to the owner. How can I tell?

                        Edit: I should add that there are times when I do tip, and it’s when good service beyond base expectations was provided. Like if I asked for recommendations and it wasn’t just the most expensive item on the menu, they were pretty prompt about taking my order, and/or it’s busy / during holiday season

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                        • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                          edited comment to appeal to the masses

                          yeah fuck restaurant employees! they’re morons for working restaurants!

                          what a bunch of cunts!

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                          zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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                          Not doing something optional isn’t punishing someone

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                            spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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                            Good. The only way this is going to change is if customers stop coming to places that demand a tip when an employee looks up from their phone.

                            Leaving a tip for decent table service is a given, but the absurdity of being asked to tip if someone literally does nothing more than presses a button on a register is a great way to lose customers permanently. We used to be regulars of a couple of small fast food places that started with this bullshit. Haven’t been back since.

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                              Not doing something optional isn’t punishing someone

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                              glytch@lemmy.world
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                              It is when you know they’re being paid less than minimum wage because they’re a server. Want to actually make a difference? Lobby for better labor laws. Otherwise, you’re just punching someone who’s already down and blaming them for it.

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                                hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                Fuck service fees, fuck tips, fuck all that shit. Pay people what their worth.

                                Only time I’ll tip for no reason is my local pho place, they remember me and know my order so I just throw an extra $2 at em every time. But I shouldn’t be obligated to do so as a service fee like that one buddy said.

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                                • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                                  edited comment to appeal to the masses

                                  yeah fuck restaurant employees! they’re morons for working restaurants!

                                  what a bunch of cunts!

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                                  hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  Well it will definitely make the employee think maybe we should find another job.

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                                  • G glytch@lemmy.world

                                    It is when you know they’re being paid less than minimum wage because they’re a server. Want to actually make a difference? Lobby for better labor laws. Otherwise, you’re just punching someone who’s already down and blaming them for it.

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                                    lobut@lemmy.ca
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                                    Less than minimum wage? That’s not a thing in Canada is it?

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                                    • arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineA arcanepotato@crazypeople.online

                                      Oh cool, this means people are no longer patronizing establishments that have tip prompts as a way to show that they don’t support companies that reply on them to pay staff, right?

                                      Right?

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                                      slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca
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                                      In most of the world, you pay what you see on the shelf.

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                                        quilotoa@lemmy.ca
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                                        Yeah, the older Canadians too. It’s ridiculous that the owners make their workers depend on how much business they can bring in for their wages. Do it like the rest of the world and pay them a decent wage. The only way to change this is for everyone to stop tipping.

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                                        • L lobut@lemmy.ca

                                          Less than minimum wage? That’s not a thing in Canada is it?

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                                          eranziel@lemmy.world
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                                          Fortunately not. But even in Canada, minimum wage is abysmal.

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